Suprisingly not a moan!

[Raiser]

Originally Posted by LPL_Mike

I will look at getting something sorted

Cool..... defiently needed! PLayed tonight and back already.

There is still some confusion about the min raises etc... just as an example i raised 1200 on the flop (first to act) and some guy said raise and put in 1300! i looked confused and aparantly i was wrong in saying that that the min raise is 2400!! anyhow made no difference as even a min raise deserved a reraise!! LOL.....

Its all fun anyhow and the game is played in good spirits.... which is what poker is all about.

[LPL_Mike]

Originally Posted by askldfhj

Cool..... defiently needed! PLayed tonight and back already.

There is still some confusion about the min raises etc... just as an example i raised 1200 on the flop (first to act) and some guy said raise and put in 1300! i looked confused and aparantly i was wrong in saying that that the min raise is 2400!! anyhow made no difference as even a min raise deserved a reraise!! LOL.....

Its all fun anyhow and the game is played in good spirits.... which is what poker is all about.

What were the blinds at the time?
do you mean he called your 1200 and then added 1300? 2500 in total?

[Raiser]

Originally Posted by LPL_Mike

What were the blinds at the time?
do you mean he called your 1200 and then added 1300? 2500 in total?

Em, no! I mean he raised me 100! so total was 1300! (blinds were 50/100 and i was told that aslong as the min raise is in incriments of the BB then the 100 raise is ok!

Anyway, its all fun and as i said even a 'normal' min raise deserved a reraise! lol

I am sorry if iam taking this a little too seriously - but did you know there is a WSOP seat up for grabs?

Actually no....iam going to retire LOL.

[Hoof_Hearted]

Mike, you really need to clarify what the minimum raise is. I play a lot of games in this league and I have witnessed many different examples of what people think the minimum raise is. Here is what I believe the minimum raise is. It is also what online poker sites use and it is what is written into your own rules on the LPL website (Click on Rules, then Poker League Rules, Terms and Conditions)....

If there has been no previous raise, then the minimum raise is twice the current bet. This means that if the big blind is currently 100, then the minimum raise must be 100 (or more), making the total bet 200 (or more). Most people are aware of this.

If there has been a previous raise in the current betting round, then the next minimum raise must be equal to or more than the previous raise. For example, if the big blind is 100 and somebody raises to 350 (a raise of 250), then the next raise in this round of betting must be a minimum of 250, making a total of 600 (350 + 250). I have played against many long standing members of this league who are addamant that the minimum raise has to be double the previous bet. i.e. raising the 100 big blind to 300, then the next raise must be to 600 (double the 300). This is incorrect. The pit boss at one other venue I played at recently, thought that the minimum raise was always equal to the big blind. i.e. if the big blind 100 is raised to 300, then the next raise must be equal to or more than 100, making a total bet of 400. Again, this is wrong.

Can you please clarify whether my understanding is correct and inform all pit bosses what the minimum raise is. There is nothing worse than playing different rules at every venue you play at.

[LPL_Mike]

If there has been no previous raise, then the minimum raise is twice the current bet. This means that if the big blind is currently 100, then the minimum raise must be 100 (or more), making the total bet 200 (or more). Most people are aware of this.

Pre-flop that is correct... BUT when the flop has been dealt and you are the first to act (BB 200) you can bet 300 (the bet must be at least the size of the BB)..you dont have to make the bet 400.

The raising you are spot on, but i can see why people say you have to match the size of the previous raise, as a lot of new people play the game and it takes a lot less working out then trying to figure out the minimum re-raise etc...but i will e-mail the pit bosses to make sure they know the correct format.

100/200 standard raise to 600 *if someone decides to re-raise here the minimum has to be a 1000 (previous raise was 400 200+400) so you have to at least match the size of the previous raise (400) 600+400=1000

Its a bit to early in the morning for this ..but i think thats correct!

[Hoof_Hearted]

Originally Posted by LPL_Mike

Player A raises to 1200 (12x the BB must be holding pkt 2's)!

I think you may be wrong in thinking that a raise of 12x BB means that Player A is holding pocket 2's. It's surely a much better hand than that. Personally, I would raise that much with any cards as long as they were suited, cos as everyone knows, you'd be very unlucky not to hit a flush with suited hole cards

[Gus Mango Fish]

Originally Posted by LPL_Mike

He has to match the previous raise of 1100+100..so the minimum re-raise =1100+1200 2300 in total...time for a sit down in a dark corner

I was following you until this bit... There is 2300 in the pot at this point. He can raise by another 1100 (equal to the last raise), meaning his bet will have to be the last bet (1100) + at least his min raise (1100 again) = 2200 is the bet.

[LPL_Mike]

Originally Posted by Gus Mango Fish

I was following you until this bit... There is 2300 in the pot at this point. He can raise by another 1100 (equal to the last raise), meaning his bet will have to be the last bet (1100) + at least his min raise (1100 again) = 2200 is the bet.

If your first to act post flop you can bet anything as long as its at least the size of the big blind.
Example
BB 200 you can throw out anything from 200 to allin

lets just confirm and look at other example where this person is the 3rd person to act after 2 limpers post flop

BB 400
Player A raises 3x the BB to total of 1200 (800 raise +400 bb)
Player B anounces re-raise ...so he calls the initial bet of 1200 while considering the raise (minimum raise would be 800) in total the raise would be 2000 (1200 + a raise of 800 =2000)

[Raiser]

Originally Posted by askldfhj

There is still some confusion about the min raises etc... just as an example i raised 1200 on the flop (first to act)

This isnt good when i have to reapeat myself and actually requote myself!!

Looking at the example above, the min raise IS in fact 2400. I WAS the first to act AFTER the flop and the BLINDS have nothing to do with it.

So for example; preflop me and you (mike) go hell for leather prelop and DONT put each other all in when the blinds are 50/100 (irelivant)..... and POST flop iam first to act and i bet 1200.... the min raise IS 2400..... All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise (<<<<thats a fullstop btw)

So iam sorry to say this but not only does the 'new' venues need the rules but by the sound of it all the venues need the rules!

Iam sorry to sound like as ass hole... and iam sorry to sound like a fuckin moaning old man but CHRSIT there is a friggin WSOP seat up for grabs and it would be good that the winner knows how to min raise!

AND for the record if the winners of this promotion decide to min rasie at the WSOP they deserve to be shot......

.....becasue a min rasie is a truly awful bet IMO.....

And lastly i apologise if this comes across as a very abrupt post but iam on major tilt and i have been drinking far too much already!!! LMAO......

Have fun everyone!!! hehe

[waltypies]

I agree with that.

Lets say you did that PRE flop and you raised to 1200 and the other guy min raised to 2400. As you are getting the correct odds you HAVE TO call.

Now AFTER the flop the min bet is 100 if the blinds were 50/100

Just repeating what you are saying there but i agree this is an issue which needs to be cleared up.

Also like only showing one card at the showdown!!! (But thats a different subject)!!

PS PEOPLE STOP MIN RAISING