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    Its like watching a slo mo trainwreck......

    A105 you talk a lot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProLays View Post
    If you actually check betfair throughout the day you will see that prices fluctuate both up and down, if someone clicks on a race on betfair and it is above the recommended price then they have a choice of making it a no bet or setting up a max price with which to lay, I hope this explains the reasoning, however if you wish any firther info please do not hesitate to ask.

    I have 4 selections today.

    Salisbury
    3.15 Cloudesley, 7pts lay to win

    Carlisle
    4.40 Off Chance, 6pts lay to win

    Kempton
    7.50 Midnight Fantasy, 8pts lay to win
    9.20 Go Amwell, 6pts lay to win.

    TODAY DO NOT LAY OVER 5.0

    Till tomorrow

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    It doesn't explain the reasoning no. I know how Betfair works, I've been scalping and swing trading for moderate profit for years.

    If you want to set a max lay price then it has to be per selection or a standard rule otherwise there is absolutley no logic to what you are saying.

    If you give a blanket max lay price of 5.0 for the day you are saying to everyone don't lay any horse if it's bigger than 5.0 without any reference to what chance it has based on the tissue, form, ground, course, betting activities and all the other stats. One of your selections might be Evs on the tissue price in the Racing Post but you are saying don't lay it if it's bigger than 5.0 today. Why?

    If you are setting a max lay price then it should be per selection or a constant as part of your strategy regardless of what day of the week it is.

    Every trader has there own strategy, personally I don't lay anything to win at over 4/1 or anything for a place at over 2/1, it doesn't matter what day of the week it is. I often look at a selection and decide to only lay it if it is below Evs for a place (for example) but that is specific to that selection not a blanket rule for the day.

    Tell me, where are you getting your daily max lay figure from? How are you calculating it? Based on what? I've got a feeling you are plucking it out of the air based on tissue prices / betfair early prices from the night before.
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    I never take prices from the night before as the prices can fluctuate so much durning the morning, however if you dont like what I recommend then why continue to follow the service, if you want you can leave now or wait till the FREE TIPS run out at the end of June, which seems the likely thing you will do, I had this discussion with Stroma ( who may or may not be an aquantence of yours) but I do not intend to get in to a protracted flame about this, its simple if you dont like it dont bother with it, I have paying clients who dont complain so at the end of the day friend what works for me does not seem to work for you and vice versa.

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    Well said prolays. what he ment to say was. if you dont like what you read, dont read it. or as i would put it. If you dont like what you read, f/off you nit picking, turd sucking, interfearing snot bogi. PLEASE. (manners are always important)
    he has already said he's here while the end of june. and hes having a little fun at nobodys expence. so give the guy a break.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProLays View Post
    I never take prices from the night before as the prices can fluctuate so much durning the morning, however if you dont like what I recommend then why continue to follow the service, if you want you can leave now or wait till the FREE TIPS run out at the end of June, which seems the likely thing you will do, I had this discussion with Stroma ( who may or may not be an aquantence of yours) but I do not intend to get in to a protracted flame about this, its simple if you dont like it dont bother with it, I have paying clients who dont complain so at the end of the day friend what works for me does not seem to work for you and vice versa.
    I'm simply asking you to justify why you keep changing your max lay price. On at least 2 seperate threads you have made statements to say "NEVER lay a horse above XX" and stated different prices 3 times, 10.0, 7.0, 7.5. Now you are stating different prices per day. I just want to understand your logic around the max lay price, why you have changed your views and how you are calculating it?

    There is no flame, it's a forum people are supposed to discuss things and top give opinions and views even when they don't agree with fellow posters. The whole point of a forum is for discussion around said topics, I want to discuss this with you. It's not an advertising board for you to promote your service and not discuss it with anyone when they question something, that's not what forums are for.

    P.S Stroma isn't an acquaintance of mine, I've been using these forums for years and had many debates, agreements, disagreements, differing views etc over the years on many different subjects. Just because someone agrees with my comments and has the same questions / remarks that don't concur with your views it doesn't mean that I am in cahoots with him/her.
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    Default Today`s Selection`s

    A slight loss yesterday but for this month we are still over 24pts up on the month using £1=1pt, or £241 up betting to £10=1pt.

    I have 4 selections for tonights racing.

    17.30 Newcastle Minturno

    18.10 Kempton Tinkerbelle

    18.40 Leicester Bahamian Ceilidh

    19.00 Hamilton Rare Coincidence.

    Do not lay any horse that goes over 8.5

    Till tomorrow

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    Wekk we had a very successful day yesterday, and my clients who are betting £10=1point are now over £530 in profit for the month, I had a great evening at my local track Hamilton Park, not such a train wreck after all.


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    We have 8 selections today, DO NOT LAY OVER 7.5

    14.20 Doncaster Cherry Bee

    15.15 Mkt Rasen Baren De Doc

    16.35 Doncaster Jack Cool

    19.25 Newcastle Indian Trail

    20.15 Chester Rising Kheleyf

    20.25 Newcastle Handsome Falcon

    20.50 Chester Brassini

    21.10 Newmarket Avertor


    Till Tomorrow

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    Well guys another successful day today with only a couple outside the price limit, surely there`s
    someone with a complaint, after all my clients are only £1,000 in profit for the month.

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    After a great day yesterday I awoke this morning to find some idiot from the cable company digging up the street, this meant by the time he was finished I had missed 2 early lays, I do however have a further 4 for later on in the day/Evening.

    16.50 Newcastle Kingsdale Orion

    17.45 Lingfield Terminate

    19.05 Doncaster Everybody Knows

    19.55 Lingfield Matterofact

    Today do not lay any horse over 7.5


    Till Monday

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