Lay betting - Pro's and con's

[Acarr]

Out of interest Acarr, are these lay "tips" given by the website (ie, personal opinions), or are they tips being based on odds that are shorter than they should be (ie, you are looking for value bets)?

No John H, these are not personal opinions or website stuff, I haven't a clue how their are selected. I can ring each day and listen to the recorded message for the days tips.

Maybe a seasoned horse man would be able to suss out how the horses are selected, but I don't know.

Some days no horses are put forward at all as too risky.

Always told to watch for non-runners and keep odds below 3.5 (Betfair)

[John Holmes' Stunt C**K]

If you are ever bored, and have balls of steel, try this small, low risk game.

Usually on Befair, the book comes down to around 100% about 20 minutes before the off. Look for an open race where the favourite is no shorter than 3-1, with a relatively small field.

About 3 months ago, I did this, and at 20 minutes before the "off" I backed each horse (with odds of no greater than 16's) for a potential loss of 10 quid on each horse.

Now this is no joke, but each horse I backed, at sometime before the off, the odds came shorter than those I backed at, and so I could have then layed that horse to lose 10 quid, and leave myself with effectively a free bet on that horse to win.

eg, backed at decimal odds of 11 (ie, 10/1) for 10 quid
Layed at odds of 10 (ie, 9/1) for 10 quid

This left me winning 10 quid if the horse won, and losing nothing if it didn't.

Obviously, the trick is to know when the odds are at their shortest, as there is a good chance they will drift out again, leaving you a small loss

[Acarr]

No thanks mate, My balls are rattling about in the bag enough by putting £100 bets on.

With work I can only manage Saturday bets at the minute instead of every day, but yesterday was a success.

Lay to lose on at Wolverhampton got me £95 ( after Betfairs commission ).

Might take your advice though, if I had of waited the odds were much better.


Thoughtsofstardom Lay 28-Jan-06 3.2 £89.83
Thoughtsofstardom Lay 28-Jan-06 3.15 £10.17

Nice win tip for Southwell topped it up

Green Tango Back 28-Jan-06 £20.00 1.88 £17.60