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    Default You’re not going to win.

    Has it never occurred to anyone that casinos, arcades, pubs, ect, ect, ect, don’t buy these machines to give away money. In the UK (and as this forum is .co.uk I’m assuming it is aimed at people residing in the UK) the machines need to pay out a minimum of 70% (don’t quote me on it but I’m convinced that’s right) that means on average for every £100 put into the machine it has to pay out on average £70, granted not all machines will have a 70% pay out rate some might have a payout rate of 98% so a player puts in £100 they get out-on average- £98, they loss £2 giving the player a net gain of -£2 (i.e. a £2 lose ). I’m not saying the player won’t get lucky once every so often and happen to go out with more money you went in with but in the long term you chances of winning are negligible!

    In summary over long term play you’re not going to win, unless you do something illegal (which I don’t advise) or unless you own one of these machines.

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    There are ways to win I can assure you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extreme eddie View Post
    There are ways to win I can assure you.
    I’m going to assume you don’t own a machine or do anything illegal I’m also going to assume you’re not talking about refill keys based on a previous post (what you said about them in that post was correct) and they don’t give you an advantage over the machine. So the last option left is that there is a strategy and just like roulette strategies they don’t work on modern machines (there were thing you could do on older machines).

    I’m going to quote you again now.
    Quote Originally Posted by extreme eddie View Post
    There are ways to win I can assure you.
    If there is something that works, A I would not expect you to give it away but B I would expect you are using it to make money, so can I ask you if you play modern fruit machines professionally or at least to boost your income.

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    I, like many many others play full time, I play £35 & £70 jackpot machines and make a very good living.

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    he's clearly not a player and just trolling.

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    he's clearly not a player and just trolling.
    Let’s quote the urban dictionary on this one.

    Trolling
    Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions, or other foolishness. However, trolling statements are never true or are ever meant to be construed as such. Nearly all trolled statements are meant to be funny to some people, so it does have some social/entertainment value.

    "Trolling" isn't simply "harmful statements". Intentionally insulting/libelous statements are "flaming".

    Just as bad as trolling is "Feeding the Trolls". This is when people say stuff that they know will prompt someone to respond with a trolled reply and/or replying to comments that are blatantly from a troll. This is especially true when a troll first makes his comment/reply, and (usually many) people respond, either trying to correct the troll, or express anger at the statement. At that point, the trolling was successful and has been fed. When encouraged by success and feeding, trolls often return.

    If you were to call me a prick based on the fact I just poster 3 paragraphs to explain 1 word I don’t see how I could argue with you but that not why you did.

    either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions

    There wise no wise crackery, I didn’t ask a bluntly stupid question and the information I posted was not incorrect. I’d say your information was crackery but let’s not argue about who's trolling.

    Let’s draw a distinction between fruit machines and slot machines. Slot machines are a game of chance (with the chance stacked against the player so they loss in the long term). Fruit machines are more a game of skill (and don’t take that out of context) but the skill level is equivalent to playing blackjack and not card counting the players losses can be minimized but over all there still in a net loss.

    So far on this thread I’ve been give no proof that the modern machines can be beaten with skill, so far all I’ve been give is an assurance with no proof and your comment which hints at the fact that you think there is a way to beat them. So when you can give me something to prove me wrong (and I’ve got the maths backing me up and the fact that there is an entire industry built around these things to make the owner money on my side) that a can’t argue with then come back and criticise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Smith View Post
    In summary over long term play you’re not going to win, unless you do something illegal (which I don’t advise) or unless you own one of these machines.
    I heard some cases pertaining fruit machine scams. Actually the so called "scam" claimed against the fruit machines is in the software. It was said that the fruit machine cheats programmed the software in such a way that it would never produce a winner. There was in fact absolutely no winning combination to be found in the software.

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    Euphoria1988 it just Occurred to me there you might not be talking about me. If that is the case I apologise.

    It was said that the fruit machine cheats programmed the software in such a way that it would never produce a winner. There was in fact absolutely no winning combination to be found in the software.
    That wouldn’t surprise me.

    It’s also been done sort of in reveres so that when coins are put in and buttons are pressed in a certain combination the machine gives large pay outs. That’s what led to Nevada changing their slot machine programming procedure.

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    I'd prefer you to go on thinking what you like than draw any attention to what's what, stay lucky.

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    And for the record I think euphoria is talking to you.

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