refill keys? were have they gone?

[slotter-king]

now then slotters,just wondering if any one can tell me were have all the refill keys gone of ebay,im not intrested in one its just that i had a look and they have gone they was 100s. has it come illegal to sell them on there? bloke in fantasy forest caught me with one and bard me and said it was illegal,load a bollox do you think? let us no
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fantasy forest man needs his head or maybe just!!!!!!!!!!!

[aaamusements]

Ebay made them a prohibited item ages ago under the banner "encouraging illegal activity".

The jury is still very much out on whether they are illegal or not - I can't see how they can be if you have a legitimate reason for owning one, such as your own fruit machine at home.

I reckon what was more criminal is that sellers were charging top money for cheap and nasty, badly cut copies that were prone to jamming.
Laser cut original or nothing is what I say.

Arcade owners or managers are well within there rights in chucking you out for using one, but then they could chuck you out for wearing a hat or looking at them funny if they wanted - it is their property.

[rob1867]

Of course there's no point in having one anyway as they don't work. They do show you how many coins are in the tubes/hopper but this is no indication at all to whether a machine is about to drop, take it from me I am from the industry.

[Gambogaz1]

Of course there's no point in having one anyway as they don't work. They do show you how many coins are in the tubes/hopper but this is no indication at all to whether a machine is about to drop, take it from me I am from the industry.

Erm how exactly do you mean don't work? If a machine is a non notey cab and shows it's £85 off it's about as far off from dropping possible so in that respect i'd say it worked.

[rob1867]

Erm how exactly do you mean don't work? If a machine is a non notey cab and shows it's £85 off it's about as far off from dropping possible so in that respect i'd say it worked.

Which pot is £85 down? All of them or has one just dropped? Is there another pot that is full? Counting the coins or last wins. I tested games for years and I had free range to look at what a key could tell you and I can assure you that the only people that make money from keys are the guys that sell them.

[extreme eddie]

Gambo is right, keys are very useful on the non note changers, and too be honest i never leave the house without it.

[rob1867]

Gambo is right, keys are very useful on the non note changers, and too be honest i never leave the house without it.

It's all in the mind, you were probably going to win anyway, the fruit machine Co's love the perception that keys are a cheat because it makes players think they have an advantage. Arcade owners don't like them, but they generally don't understand how an AWP works.

[extreme eddie]

many times i've keyed something thats well down, so i've probably saved £10-£15 not playing a dead machine, times this over the month or even the year and think how much i've saved, if its all in the mind and the companies think these are not an advantage then good, they definately have a place and mine is always in my johnny pocket.

[betchrider]

I found em very useful on extremes

[Gambogaz1]

Which pot is £85 down? All of them or has one just dropped? Is there another pot that is full? Counting the coins or last wins. I tested games for years and I had free range to look at what a key could tell you and I can assure you that the only people that make money from keys are the guys that sell them.

Eh whats that mean? what fruit machines are you talking about? for someone in the business you don't seem to know what your talking about.

No notey cabinets have a single hopper holding £125 and a notey cab holds £250 in a double hopper but doesn't give 2 seperate readings. There main use is to save you from playing a machine thats recently been stung(Unless a refill disguises this) and as Betch mentioned, very handy for extremes for other reasons. Probably made people thousands & thousands on old extremes.