Bully for Phil Yabba Darts Taylor

[kidgloves]

How is everyone playing these ?
On a machine with the positive signs, are you forcing for JP or top feature first and then how many feature boards are you trying after to see if anything more is due ?

[jeffvickers]

refill key?

[jjh]

How is everyone playing these ?
On a machine with the positive signs, are you forcing for JP or top feature first and then how many feature boards are you trying after to see if anything more is due ?

On Bully I just play all out for DM then play on and hope to get Shanghai suprise within £10-£15, collect that feature and gamble up to DM again. Same applies to Yabba Darts. Works quite alot and if not you still end up with a half decent feature or even a £15-£20 off Good Times

The Phil Taylor seems a bit tighter to me- I have got 3 I play and all 3 seem very stingy in afterplay so just a case of hoping for a £35+ DM off as less money in as possible, maybe hope for a good cashpot on the next board or so. So many times though, even if it is playing very well from the off and DM comes after £20- the machine just seems to dry up. Although you can pretty much guarantee a jp feature (super hold or nearest win) within an other £25 after collecting a DM- just a case of hoping it comes within as short amount in as possible.

These machines are all about location- if more than 3 people or forcing these per week and playing to take all the value, then the streak never has a chance to build up at all. One of the Phil Taylor Darts only ever gives £25 now- even if backing straight away and seemingly playing like it hasn't been had for a while.

In fact, is it possible for a machine to have the top feature capped at £25? Just I played the Taylor darts about two weeks ago- backing within £4 and got DM withing the £20 mark- it only went for £25. Played another board and got another DM- another £25 then the machine dried up. Strange profile if you ask me!

[S6TAV]

Kidgloves - "How is everyone playing these?"
JeffVickers - "Refill Key?"

Refill key what?
A refill key is about as reliable as securicor these days

Say somebody has been using the machine to change notes and the hopper reports as low or somebody dropped £100 out of it's backside and it has been refilled
In either situation your refill key is not going to give you an acurate reading of how the machine is going to play

kidglove I would just go with what jjh said

[badders]

hope they bring out a £35 verison

[kidgloves]

refill key?

I don't see how this has any relevance to my question.
How is knowing the hopper balance going to help me apart from an initial indication as to whether to play or not.
My question relates to any/all of the following:

Do people think a JP can trigger the streak boards for a DM or vice versa?
Random dead boards are common on these, even if machine is buzzing, so a crap board straight after a DM is not always a foregone conclusion to a dead machine. The problem lies in how many boards you try after, 5 boards say can cost you £25 easy, but it may be the 3rd or 4th that holds the DM if it wants to streak after your first JP/DM board.

JJH, at the risk of being lazy, can you tell me what Shanghai Suprise does ? I'm usually into the business of gambling up to DM from a little higher and taking as low a win as possible if it doesn't climb all the way.

[Justanewone]

Played one 2nite with a nice float, 20 in offered a true skill mystery on 2 below DM, take multi add, cash to 25 and 1 feature for bulls hit, so with a big cp and those deicde to push - then mystery, 4 lights out, last lit dead, 50 later decided to take a 2.40 off pick a prize or whatever it is. Another 30 in, got 2 DM's for 25 each, not bad i thought, then pushed for another after around 18 in i got the flash FOR 25 which pissed me off, next board cost 7 quid and offered sweet 3 quid which i didnt take, gambled the feature 4 4th and got 2 quid shunted on me. Walked off. 118 in 78 out. I know its a 30 loss but the bear in mind I have 8 quid left after buying 80 fags a gammon steak and around 9 beers.

Davew

[Zorro Jnr]

Dave 80 fags, u in a gay bar then!!!! Can't smoke that many playing darts mate

[Thor2007]

118 in 78 out. I know its a 30 loss but the bear in mind I have 8 quid left after buying 80 fags a gammon steak and around 9 beers.

Davew

That is one of the funniest thing I have hears in a long time. A gammon steak, LMAO. All my good machines have disappeared lately and since I don't play the pubs, my slotting days are all but over.

Got an itch to go hunting today sometime, but I know I will end up playing the shite of the day like party times and bx7's and likely come home down a monkey.

One arcade got rid of ceasars, aftershock, revolution, monty pythons, hi impact, connect 4 in the same week. Replaced them with nothing and made the over 18's area smaller. It now consists of 4 bx7's, a party time arena, bullion bars, oxo club and about 6 s16's. What a fkn selection! Oh, not to mention those shitey crazy fruits (get the keys to unlock the reels) pish that need a fortune in them before they do any kind of run. £45 for a set of keys that pays £6, thank you very much!

I'd go as far as saying the £5 JP's around here are as profitable as the shite in that cash area, and certainly more reliable. The time they are changing and I'm just glad I aint an addict coz I am seeing a lot of people fall onto the slippery slope that is the s16 area. Hearing of 3k in a random spinner when they drive about in a 'M' reg ford mondeo thats got more rust than that Forth rail bridge. People need their head checked.

I'm proud to say I have touched one of they multi-win line machines once, and it was a £200 JP. £60 in £240 out and never again, thank you very much. Still ended up ploughing £400 into a bx7 that day and walking away even.

Going from a fruit machine player that played at least 5 times a week to a stranger in the local who plays about once a month had been a breath of fresh air and any visit from now on is out of boredom rather than the profits involved (or lack of, these days).

[jjh]

I don't see how this has any relevance to my question.
How is knowing the hopper balance going to help me apart from an initial indication as to whether to play or not.
My question relates to any/all of the following:

Do people think a JP can trigger the streak boards for a DM or vice versa?
Random dead boards are common on these, even if machine is buzzing, so a crap board straight after a DM is not always a foregone conclusion to a dead machine. The problem lies in how many boards you try after, 5 boards say can cost you £25 easy, but it may be the 3rd or 4th that holds the DM if it wants to streak after your first JP/DM board.

JJH, at the risk of being lazy, can you tell me what Shanghai Suprise does ? I'm usually into the business of gambling up to DM from a little higher and taking as low a win as possible if it doesn't climb all the way.

You know what KidGloves, I haven't actually ended up with that feature for such a while I've forgotten what it does! I think you get pseudo skill on whether your throw on the boards gets a single, doubles or trebles, then you get as few throws on the darts board- usually £8-£14 if memory serves me correct.

I was told that Shanghai Suprise was the feature to collect to gamble from after obtaining the first DM. Worked on Bully and Yabba 7/10 but the Phil Taylor seems to have been sorted out.

As for taking jp starting a streak, I've never actually just taken jp unless it was offered within a very short space of time. On the occasions that I took it, it never started a streak of anykind, but rather seemed to kill the machine off!

I know what you mean, you can easily play 5 boards on these machines as afterplay and lose jp amount quite easily. Although I've found after a DM that a jp can be pretty much guaranteed within £25 anyway- which is just a waste of time. I just play one board after DM and hope it is a good one, if I get shafted then I leave it alone. By good board I mean £10+ cashpot or decent feature from which to gamble up from.