Question about new machines

**XGoldenGameX** · 18th August 2006, 09:22 AM

When a new machine is put on site whether it is £5/25/500 JP. Does a machine for the first part (warm up period) give a higher percentage payout to attract players?

Or is the machine dead for a while as it has just been refilled and also requires a few days of some investment before it really 'plays well' pays out!

**kidgloves** · 18th August 2006, 10:32 AM

Good question.
It really depends on you meaning of 'new'.
If you mean new as in brand new, then more often these days the manus incorporate a pre programmed 'played in' chip so the percentage drift isn't in the favour of the player. Older machines were a dream to play as they really were off their tits when first switched on and could be fleeced.
If you mean new as just a different machine, then the chances are it's just come from another location and you'll be playing from the history of payouts that it made in that previous location.
Bingo halls are particularly fond of raising the percentage on a newly installed unit, particularly lo-tecs for a couple of weeks to suck people in, but then sink to the low 70's when they have a good customer base for the machine.
I remember the days of tokens when I could ask the engineer who was a bit bent to do a full ram reset and I'd give him a few quid. Those were the days.

**gb74** · 18th August 2006, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by kidgloves

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I remember the days of tokens when I could ask the engineer who was a bit bent to do a full ram reset and I'd give him a few quid. Those were the days.

He,He,He. Happy days..........

An engineer recently told me that new machines have around 50,000 credits 'automatically played through them' using some software device to take any early spikes out of the %payout

**XGoldenGameX** · 18th August 2006, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by gb74

He,He,He. Happy days..........

An engineer recently told me that new machines have around 50,000 credits 'automatically played through them' using some software device to take any early spikes out of the %payout

Charming they leave us the left overs!

**rushmore** · 18th August 2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by kidgloves

Good question.
It really depends on you meaning of 'new'.
If you mean new as in brand new, then more often these days the manus incorporate a pre programmed 'played in' chip so the percentage drift isn't in the favour of the player. Older machines were a dream to play as they really were off their tits when first switched on and could be fleeced.
If you mean new as just a different machine, then the chances are it's just come from another location and you'll be playing from the history of payouts that it made in that previous location.
Bingo halls are particularly fond of raising the percentage on a newly installed unit, particularly lo-tecs for a couple of weeks to suck people in, but then sink to the low 70's when they have a good customer base for the machine.
I remember the days of tokens when I could ask the engineer who was a bit bent to do a full ram reset and I'd give him a few quid. Those were the days.

That's correct, on the electrocoins it's 10,000 credits, I don't know about the board machines.
Some arcades don't do the 10,000 on their new electrocoins as an inducement to players to become addicted, like you I played many a new bar-x and seen it empty 10-15 times before it wen to the normal crap 'flat' state.