Bell fruit and Red, Your days are OVER!

**jeffvickers** · 29th May 2006, 07:50 PM

Why do they persist in bringing out machines that are so player-unfriendly. Think how many potential players/gamblers that their companies can possibly attract but to put £10 in then be killed on a £1 board. God, at least give them a board every £3 to give them at least a £1. Barcrests are shit nowadays and for any newbie that plays extreme, god help them!

**anfield road** · 29th May 2006, 11:06 PM

Dont play BFMs then mate, crests are still at there near best with the late release of machines

**darren222** · 30th May 2006, 02:10 AM

Reds days are certainly not over for players i can assure you. In fact theyve to a certain extent only just begun.

If you were a more serious player then perhaps you would realise that they are among the most profitable going (if you know how)

As to bellfruit, they are making a fortune. From a punters perspective they are the best as they offer a fair chance to everyone, collecting on ?'s is a big +. As to 'us' players, yeah they are shit

As to the cresters, keep up the good work (TAW etc)

**S6TAV** · 30th May 2006, 12:19 PM

Thing is if you catch a BFM at the right time they are superb. Granted that doesn't happen much but still they appeal to the general public who may just like a little dabble here and there. BFM/RED etc are not stupid they dont just make machines for hardcore fruity gamblers

**DannyC** · 30th May 2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by JPwizard

Thing is if you catch a BFM at the right time they are superb. Granted that doesn't happen much but still they appeal to the general public who may just like a little dabble here and there. BFM/RED etc are not stupid they dont just make machines for hardcore fruity gamblers

They make such shite AWP's, yet you can't beat their clubbies, regardless of what anyone says

**jjh** · 31st May 2006, 07:14 AM

For the average player who just throws a couple of quid in, I'd say BFM would be their fav, if playing well. They collect on a mystery and next board pays out and they end up with a huge bank and are happy!

BFM are always worth a few quid for me

**Matty** · 31st May 2006, 10:22 AM

Got to say reds are my fav jus now! They have good streaks and good tops and you can always get some afters and yeah when bfms are hit at the right time they go mental!

**DannyC** · 1st June 2006, 12:09 AM

The thing is, both of these manu's have been discussed in SERIOUS depth in other threads, maybe its time to recollect a few sticky's?

**jeffvickers** · 5th June 2006, 10:42 AM

I am still making a wage from Extremes, but obviously now with the re-chip there is less money to be made from the other bits and pieces. I am interested in the Red and Barcrest (dodgy programmers!!) side of things if anyone would be so willing to PM me. Thanking you in anticipation of your most esteemed valued co-operation.