Nice little lunch break

[DannyC]

Originally Posted by jjh

Yeah, afterplay can be good, but not always worth it in my opinion cos you try a fiver to check it out and before you know it, it has become a tenner.

Wrong! This is where knowledge comes into play and self discipline of NOT getting up to a tenner before leaving. Afterplay on a typical AWP of the ones I know of, usually consist of £3 in for £7 out. Another £2 in for another £5-6.

[jjh]

Originally Posted by DannyC

Wrong! This is where knowledge comes into play and self discipline of NOT getting up to a tenner before leaving. Afterplay on a typical AWP of the ones I know of, usually consist of £3 in for £7 out. Another £2 in for another £5-6.

Yeah, discipline is the key mate, I agree.

But how do you know if a machine is gonna give afterplay? So you put £3 in hoping for £7 out and if nothing, you leave it alone?

[a1056688]

No it doesn't work like that.

It simply depends on the machine and how much you have had in.

E.G 1 AFU - If it isn't showing Red Boost on feature entry when you get the AFU streak then 9/10 it will be stone dead the board after and there would be no point playing on.

If it had been showing Red Boost for quite some time, maybe since you started playing it and it had cost £20 for the AFU streak then I presonally would push it for another JP and 9/10 make profit again.

E.G 2. Big Cheese - If you are playing a Big Cheese and get £75 from JP repeat, 99/100 it will be dead next board and only giving £2 so there is no point playing on.

E.G 3. Mortal Wombat - Try playing a Wombat for afterplay after manipulating the JP from Wax on Wax off. Usually around £20 for the next winning board.


There is only really three main factors that come into machine playing:

• Discipline
• Location
• Knowledge / Contacts

If you don't have discipline and play any machine that comes into sight then you won't make any money.

If you only play the machines in your local and you aren't willing to travel (ideally by car) then you won't make any decent money.

If you don't have the correct knowledge and decent contacts (preferebly in various areas of the country) then you won't make decent money.

Recently 1 has become less prominent and 2 and 3 have become more important. Players are finding themselves having to play machines they wouldn't normally attempt in an effort to try and bump the profits up. They are also finding decent locations are more hard to come by. This is not only due to the decrease in decent machines to play (as many are removed from circulation) but also the increase in the number of average players who play town centres etc. With this, the value of information and knowledge has increased, it has become more and more important to keep things quiet, hence the lack of decent knowledge being passed about the boards and between contacts.

[jjh]

Originally Posted by a1056688

No it doesn't work like that.

It simply depends on the machine and how much you have had in.

E.G 1 AFU - If it isn't showing Red Boost on feature entry when you get the AFU streak then 9/10 it will be stone dead the board after and there would be no point playing on.

If it had been showing Red Boost for quite some time, maybe since you started playing it and it had cost £20 for the AFU streak then I presonally would push it for another JP and 9/10 make profit again.

E.G 2. Big Cheese - If you are playing a Big Cheese and get £75 from JP repeat, 99/100 it will be dead next board and only giving £2 so there is no point playing on.

E.G 3. Mortal Wombat - Try playing a Wombat for afterplay after manipulating the JP from Wax on Wax off. Usually around £20 for the next winning board.


There is only really three main factors that come into machine playing:

• Discipline
• Location
• Knowledge / Contacts

If you don't have discipline and play any machine that comes into sight then you won't make any money.

If you only play the machines in your local and you aren't willing to travel (ideally by car) then you won't make any decent money.

If you don't have the correct knowledge and decent contacts (preferebly in various areas of the country) then you won't make decent money.

Recently 1 has become less prominent and 2 and 3 have become more important. Players are finding themselves having to play machines they wouldn't normally attempt in an effort to try and bump the profits up. They are also finding decent locations are more hard to come by. This is not only due to the decrease in decent machines to play (as many are removed from circulation) but also the increase in the number of average players who play town centres etc. With this, the value of information and knowledge has increased, it has become more and more important to keep things quiet, hence the lack of decent knowledge being passed about the boards and between contacts.

Good post

The only machines I am confident of profit on are two GZWI's and a Never Mind the JP's, which are all located locally in pubs in my area, so I'm quite lucky in that respect- plus I don't really intend to make a living off playing them- I've also got what seems a dodgy Double Dragon machine cos it manages to drop £50 in one go at least every two weeks.

A1, do you know anyone who actually travels around and makes a decent living off fruit machines? One of my concerns would be the territorality of the machines, cos you would find it difficult to go into a pub out of town and try and play them if the local people hit them regular. I've experienced it in many pubs with people unhappy if you play 'their' machines. In that respect, I'd agree that contacts are an important part of making it on these machines like you said.

[DannyC]

You work out how many machines are spread nationwide, over 250,000.

In short terms, theres not really as many pro/players as many people think. Majority of people 'claim' to know what theyre doing, people on this site are good and seem to know what theyre doing.

I thought I had a pro in my area, but when actually starting a conversation with him, he knew nothing more than the average player. He just liked to put £100 into a machine and see what happens, knowing he had more money if he lost.

Alot of people say to me "dont play the bandits theyre bad" then I say to them "yes i know", nobody knows that I make around £100-200 profit weekly from my machines because I dont play them while people I know, family etc are around. I keep myself quiet, I dont boast and I dont brag about what I know.

On the other hand, the ones flying around 'claiming' to know everything 9 times out of 10 know only what a casual player knows, and probably what the 'BEST' feature is on a machine.

Nothing more frustrating when I'm trying to force one of my favourite machines and some muppet who I dont even know thinks he knows more than me by saying "oh what you doing, you should've collected that £15"

*Edit*
If you know a trick on a machine locally, method or emptier, tell NO one, then choose the best day to do it, and be wise who's hanging around the machines as people will look over your shoulder to see what/how its being done, and be very careful of bar staff they dont like punters winning what they could. My locations are sweet, the mcs are no where near the bar, infact the bar staff cant see the mcs, and I always do my rounds on a thursday if not a tuesday, as thursday your lucky if you get ONE person in the place when I'm playing

[cfdu]

to take james' point on wombat i wouldn't play on whatsoever. the manipulator really sets it back. it often costs at least the 25 you just got out to get back on the board. and they are programmed not to streak off the manuipulator, so there is no point whatsoever in trying.

older barcressts, such as cash attack could be a swine as you had to check up to 6 boards to see if going i.m or a 1/12 board.

other machines are blatantly obv when dead after jp, or if some value left. take horn of plenty as an ex. if next board kills for £2 i would not carry on passed perhaps trying 1 more board.

the rule is to leave it when the board is costing more than the play it gives.

[jjh]

Originally Posted by DannyC

You work out how many machines are spread nationwide, over 250,000.

In short terms, theres not really as many pro/players as many people think. Majority of people 'claim' to know what theyre doing, people on this site are good and seem to know what theyre doing.

I thought I had a pro in my area, but when actually starting a conversation with him, he knew nothing more than the average player. He just liked to put £100 into a machine and see what happens, knowing he had more money if he lost.

Alot of people say to me "dont play the bandits theyre bad" then I say to them "yes i know", nobody knows that I make around £100-200 profit weekly from my machines because I dont play them while people I know, family etc are around. I keep myself quiet, I dont boast and I dont brag about what I know.

On the other hand, the ones flying around 'claiming' to know everything 9 times out of 10 know only what a casual player knows, and probably what the 'BEST' feature is on a machine.

Nothing more frustrating when I'm trying to force one of my favourite machines and some muppet who I dont even know thinks he knows more than me by saying "oh what you doing, you should've collected that £15"

*Edit*
If you know a trick on a machine locally, method or emptier, tell NO one, then choose the best day to do it, and be wise who's hanging around the machines as people will look over your shoulder to see what/how its being done, and be very careful of bar staff they dont like punters winning what they could. My locations are sweet, the mcs are no where near the bar, infact the bar staff cant see the mcs, and I always do my rounds on a thursday if not a tuesday, as thursday your lucky if you get ONE person in the place when I'm playing

Nice post, although the opposition doesn't have to be pro orientated to make problems for you. If you go into a pub out of town and get £75 out, the local's ain't going to be happy.

Although if you can make £100 to £200 per week without hassle, you're lucky. If I work out what I get on my 'cushy round' I'd say it's about £35+£50+35+£25+£25+£30 per week, £200, but I put probably put on average just over half than that in to get those returns, so it isn't great- nice but not great!

[MattB]

Speaking of travelling into areas, james kindly said he may be coming into my area today and even said he wouldn't go on my patch so to speak. Kudos to you my friend!

As it was, he missed a cracking day for playing today....i've ended £84 up in total off 3 hours play.
Main profits coming from a JJC which went for a good £30 odd profit, and (on the sly) i was watching some other hopeless guy ram super pool full. Backing first pound in, £17 for the tops with around £20 odd in afters too. Gotta love bank holidays!

Matt

[a1056688]

Yep I went to Dalton Park instead. (It was a load of shite by the way)

Yes I know a number of Pro's who make a good living.

A couple in Newcastle who made over £1000 a week every week for about 4 years+. Others in Sunderland and Ireland who also make good money to support a family and live comfortable quite easily. Some have about 4 houses

Personally I made somewhere between £10k and £13k in 2004, mainly from Friday night and Saturdays but I stopped recording amounts so I'm not quite sure. This is peanuts compared with some players although I'm quite happy with that considering I was also working in I.T and attending Uni.

At least 3 players that I know of have made over £250k in last 10 years. 1 of which has taken a break recently, only to return to the game if things pick up again.

You might bump into some of these guys on your travels, look out for:

M12 5LOT or M2 5LOT (Can't remember which), - BMW M3, Shefflied / Leeds area.

G8 BET - PORSCHE 911, Birmingham possibly, maybe Manchester, can't remember.

[MattB]

£10k in a year...that's very good going!

I'd class myself a decent player, and don't make anywhere near that much. Mainly because idon't have the time usually. I'd hazard a guess and say i've probably made about £2,000 or so this year to date. I'm more than happy with that....in fact coming home £20 up from 3 hours playing makes me happy too. Works out to nearly £7 an hour, not bad money for doing something requiring little effort!

Matt