Cheat Key's

**betty02** · 30th March 2005, 12:02 AM

I have seen these going on e-bay are these really worth it?

**sheeks** · 30th March 2005, 12:23 AM

Mate i think ur talkin about refill keys,

there not much use just let u turn the volume up and mabee tell u last bank and
hopper balance depend on the machine.

I bought 1 for £1.50 about 3 years ago and to be quite truthfull it was money well spent cause it allways worth checking out the ballance of a machine if it lets u, but ur not going to win with it.

**betty02** · 30th March 2005, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by sheeks

Mate i think ur talkin about refill keys,

there not much use just let u turn the volume up and mabee tell u last bank and
hopper balance depend on the machine.

I bought 1 for £1.50 about 3 years ago and to be quite truthfull it was money well spent cause it allways worth checking out the ballance of a machine if it lets u, but ur not going to win with it.

Well i am geting one for £1 so i might aswell. i no your not going win but you are more likely to go on a machine that has a 'fuller' hopper then another or one that is just payed out less then another.

I will get it then.lol

**Justanewone** · 30th March 2005, 04:03 AM

The only real use for a refill key I find nowadays, as i judge the playability of the machine based on how its actually player, is when playing a machine in a busy pub and am out for the night, for example I have an Abra in one of my night spots, and dependant on how much I put in, i'll either force or get a quick fast cash, or even put 3 in 3 out. I'll key it then and come back if I have seen someone play it, check how much more has gone back in (or come out in some instances) and if say 10+ has been lost, try a board.

Dave

**Fruity_Expert** · 30th March 2005, 05:43 PM

i always think using a refill key is too risky as 90% of pub workers etc dont know it cant do anything

**kidgloves** · 30th March 2005, 05:50 PM

Using a refill key to *refill* a machine is the best use it has.

**deejaybee** · 30th March 2005, 09:25 PM

I still think they are quite useful to be honest.

Occasional pain in the arse when they get stuck !!

Top tip

if you want to key a machine and it looks a bit risky... pub staff/customers close by etc, bung a 1p or 2p coin in, and when you reach in to get the coin out the tray, key it then.

**rolyjoely** · 30th March 2005, 10:06 PM

The only reason i use one is to refill, or check the balance when doing an mt,noy much use these days.

**travis** · 10th April 2005, 12:44 PM

hiya, if the hopper balance is o, does this mean it will pay out soon? as i tried one the other day, and it wasn't giving me anything

**a1056688** · 10th April 2005, 01:36 PM

We seem to be going over the same stuff time and time again here.

You CAN NOT use the hopper balance as an accurate way to determine if a machine is going to pay out.