Tampered note changer???

**crazyjimmy** · 29th March 2005, 06:32 PM

Popped into local spoons for second time today to play AFU after taking a quick JP earlier to find a mate playing it who dropped the normal AFU streak. He had however had the notechanger swallow a £5 note and deactivate during his play. After this the refil read £1 x 250!?!? was this due to an empty machine, a tampered notechanger or simply a sign that the notechanger was defective?

**Fruity_Expert** · 29th March 2005, 07:35 PM

if it said refill x 1 that means there was 249 pnd in the hopper. as for it de-activating they do that everynow nd then... nothing we can do really.

**elmo** · 29th March 2005, 07:44 PM

I've had machines swallow notes a couple of times before, it seems to happen when it keeps on rejecting the same note, eventually it just eats it. On one occasion I was pissed and forgot about it

but on the other the nice people at Yates's reimbursed me the next day.

**a1056688** · 29th March 2005, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by crazyjimmy

After this the refil read £1 x 250!?!? was this due to an empty machine, a tampered notechanger or simply a sign that the notechanger was defective?

On a £250 hopper the note changer automatically refuses notes (lights will go off) when the hopper has less than £125 in it.

If it read refill 1 x £250 then it is empty and the note changer shouldnt even have accepted the note.

**Justanewone** · 30th March 2005, 03:55 AM

Had a SKR swallow a 20 on me, I put it in whilst on the board, potted the m/c and no note credits were there. Tried disputing it with the pub telling them that the distributors engineer should be able to read the meters and find an extra 20 but no joy.

**Scott** · 30th March 2005, 02:58 PM

Machines are not meant to take note during feature play are they.. most machines that have allowed this at certain times in the past have lead to empties ( monopoly/thats magic[sort of] )...

If a machine just eats your £20 your best off trying to argue it out with the manager if the staff are being uncooperative.. the machine has effectivly stolen your money I guess..

**Justanewone** · 30th March 2005, 09:53 PM

The note wouldnt go in a few times so I kept trying and my mate pressed start, volia - a board for pot. The machines gone now, but I just put it down as a loss, just like all those pubs and service stations that owe you money that seems to disappear.

**crazyjimmy** · 31st March 2005, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by a1056688

On a £250 hopper the note changer automatically refuses notes (lights will go off) when the hopper has less than £125 in it.

If it read refill 1 x £250 then it is empty and the note changer shouldnt even have accepted the note.

This is really my point. The machine, which was full two hours earlier, is very unlikely to have actually been empty as the refil reading suggested, especially as the notechanger was active and only about £35 was collected. My question is was the notechanger tampered with in some way, or is it a standard symptom of a defective notechanger to affect the refil readout on the lcd?

EDIT: Another one that confused me was a full JJC with defective notechanger that, on paying out a £55 mega streak followed by a SSS pot, was still dropping after payout!!!!

**Justanewone** · 31st March 2005, 07:48 PM

It could be a coin mech problem, noticed this alot on BFM's such as JJC, they just keep dropping even when not full because the mech is out of place. On the subject, dont you just hate BFM's when they rob that pound or 3 off you.