Note Changer Lights... Meaningful?

**slikmik_fruity** · 11th August 2004, 08:58 AM

Just curious... All the notechangers that i have seen have the same lights:

"£5" "£10" "£20" "No Change available"

Is this worth looking for for a full machine? For example if it can offer "£20" then it has more than enough in the hoppers etc

Or is it pointless... ?
Had jackpot off a BFM Monopoly several times and each time its had "£20" lit - coincidence...

Thanks

**crazyjimmy** · 11th August 2004, 10:41 AM

Not sure of exactly how much must be in the hoppers for the machine to offer £10, £20 etc... but I certainly wouldn't consider taking on a machine not willing to change £20 notes for anything other than a very quick win, nor would I take it changing £20 notes as a sign that it is willing to pay out.

**Stoive** · 11th August 2004, 10:45 AM

If machines with notechangers have (usually) £250 hopper, and switch off notechanger when £50 in hopper (usually), you could still put a 20 in a machine with only 70 in it, which means it could still be £180 away from full. Obviously, it's a sign that it has some money left, but it could still of dumped £75. due to the increased hopper size I definately wouldn't use it as a sign.

As A105568 said on another thread, he sticks £15 quid in straight off, if its not backing at 15, collect whatever wins you get and walk. Just one of the things you can do to avoid filling up a machine that's just dumped.

Steve

**levartemit** · 12th August 2004, 03:49 AM

The 5 10 and 20 lights are all connected, if they go out and the no change light comes on, it will refuse ALL notes. Some have a green tick and a red cross to indicate whether it will give change or not.

**slikmik_fruity** · 12th August 2004, 11:23 AM

Disagree that they're all "connected" as for example monopoly, i've seen it light up "£5" change light and then £5 or so in later of me playing it i see that it goes to "£10" so it all depends on how much it can afford to change, but im sure it differs between different notechanger types!

**vinylweatherman** · 12th August 2004, 04:35 PM

The problem with Notechangers is not knowing whether the machine is down due to someone getting loads of change out for another machine, or whether is has genuinely 'dumped'. With so many dodgy change machines at the services where I play, a notechanger on another machine is often the only way to get change for the one you are playing (if you don't want to use its changer). I have also been told that staff at Welcome Break are tasked with refilling machines that have notechangers, so a full machine with notechanger is not necessarily a good indication as these refills are independent of the daily engineers visit.

**bonesey2000** · 12th August 2004, 04:44 PM

agreeing with viynl and slikmik here, however they are still a better sign turned on than if they are turned off, but if they are turned on they may only have £150 in them and still be £100 off backing, so it can still be misleading

bones

**addict26** · 5th April 2005, 05:20 PM

Example:

Played a GBC today. Notechanger came up coins only when I put a tenner in, and sent it back out. Ended up losing £8 trying to push for the top feature, despite getting on a couple of boards.

Was I wrong to attempt it?

**Thor2007** · 5th April 2005, 07:41 PM

As a general guide, especially involving bar - x - 7's I would not play them if the "no notes accepted" light is on, this means it has dumped over half of the hopper balance and unless on an empty run it will likely shaft you for anything it likes. Fired 80 quid into one of these when the light was on and got jack sh*t, how stupid of me! At the same time, seen people taking runs out of these when light is on, guess it just depends on how much was fired down the back when it was once full. I wouldn't chance it