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Reply With Quotehehe I used to know the codes in my head a long time ago but I couldnt for the life of me do it now without using google :P
These days everyone is spoiled by trainers and patches.. nothing to remember
No it's a manipulator, not an empty, it can empty but takes time, so how can you justify it to be an empty. On the subject of Sonic 1 (UDLR A+Start)... What were the sound effects you had to play on Sonic 2 2 get the level select? And please do not search the net (although I'll never know).
Dave
hehe I used to know the codes in my head a long time ago but I couldnt for the life of me do it now without using google :P
These days everyone is spoiled by trainers and patches.. nothing to remember
Why has it come to this?
its no emptier PERIODOriginally Posted by alexross1977
you CAN empty it on occasion, but its fucking time consuming, your mate could do better than spending hours chasing dregs. the basic method is to manipulate the feature board so that you avoid large wins but get the barcode off goldenhold (chipped ones can be tackled via locomotion)
if your mate lives off r2r he must either travel some bloody distance or have a very frugal lifestyle
reel guide alone will not suffice. its essential but without other key info you'll still end up wondering why it killed you just as you thought JP was there
anyway, ive decided to put the details up on the vip forum as its obviously more live than i previously thought
ok ttl. a reel guide will suffice. and a memory like an elephant. u just need to know when (and obv why ) you are gonna die. hence the reelguide.
my m8 does travel a lot for his r2rs but why not.... theres still plenty of 1's about.
avoid big wins you say? you avoid ALL wins... i wonder how good a player you are.. you talk *some* of the talk (ahem).. but do you walk the walk?
anyway why are we nit-picking. someone post an EMPTIER goddamit
on another topic ->
do y'all reckon daz watts has bought arcadia ? i do. a nice search engine rating will bring the punters to buy his dross... and a closed messageboard with alleged 'punter' testimonials. mmm. maybe its the way to go.? stop gambling and set up a scam site...
oh thats right- smedley has already done thatchuckle
[QUOTE=alexross1977]avoid big wins you say? you avoid ALL wins... i wonder how good a player you are.. you talk *some* of the talk (ahem).. but do you walk the walk?
ahem
ignoring the sarcastic tone in your reply :o its not possible to avoid all wins when getting setups, nor is it neccesary.
i'm not talking about taking them y'know. you try avoiding some cherry wins or whatever in range and you're fucked since you'll have pushed the single or treble bar past the winline and its not gonna offer 15 nudges to get it back round now is it?
im no pro - its a profitable hobby thats all (not so profitable half the time)! - know a few things, but much i dont and i freely admit that, its quite possible you're ahead of the game compared to me.
Ive a full time job and a full life outside of it so theres no chance of me being on top of everything. Hell, if theres info about i'll take it, buy it if its available & decent
Daz hasnt bought s.arcadia. MattD might of but who knows. Chris Smedley - good grief i somehow doubt it
There seems to be some confusion as to a true definition of the word 'Emptier'.
My view is that if it is possible to 'Empty' the hopper then it is an 'Emptier'.
However, using notes and building a bank would then mean it is possible to empty every hopper machine.... hmmmm.
My experience of R2R have shown it is possible to empty if played properly and with a bit of skill (locomotion) although due to the process involved it can be a lengthy process.
Other Examples. (Emptier OR Manipulator)
Money Laundry - Could turn into a lengthy process at times and be a pain in the arse to execute if the machine felt like playing dirty (i.e often cost £40 between JP's)
Lock N Load - Very time consuming and a complicated process.
From my personal point of view, R2R along with the 2 above would classed as an 'Emptier'. Recent methods such as, DnP, Wombat etc are 'Manipulators'.
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BSc, MOS, CCA(MPS 4.0), ITIL, ILM, MBCS
reel layout
JP JP JP
£ £ £
1B 1Bu 1B
R7 B7 R7
2B 2B 2B
C C Cu
B7u R7 B7
3B 3Bu 3B
C C C
B7 B7 B7
2B 2B 2B
£u £ £u
C Cu C
3B 3B 3B
1Bu 1B 1Bu
C C C
JP - JP
£ - £
1B - SINGLE BAR
2B - DOUBLE BAR
3B - TRIPLE BAR
B7 - BLUE 7
R7 - RED 7
u - HORSESHOE
play for barcode from golden hold by avoiding having decent wins close by. sometimes you can shuffle/ nudge barcode in. can also try locomotion (its trueskill)
no offence ttl, but from what you have said you do not know the emptier. or at least you know the bare bones, but not how to execute it fully. if you know it you will leave the hopper at £0.00 every time, and know how to kill it to stop it iou'ing. as some, including myself still make a fair bit off these i think its best to keep further discussion off the board if poss now.
you are living proof that god has a sense of humour.
Would say it is a bit of both if you ask me, and there are still unchipped ones out there, but far and few, i find them too much hard work, but have one, locomotion is a jp if your good enough, and is often easier to get than a barcode, as for the 321, would like to know where you got this from, as it is incorrect, i think your thinking of a different barcrest, the code you mean is 123 the quickest way to a jp from a barcode, simply hold the buttons down and they you go same AP/KK.
one of the main reasons r2r has been around for so long is its complexity. If only a reel guide was needed it would have been dead long ago. Even with a guide you'll still go wrong and find yourself getting tied up with wins getting too close and beeing forced to shuffle(usually risky) or killed. Experience is the only way to tackle it. As for how long it takes the most time iv'e spent on one is 3h and that was a later chip.(mainly locos). Average time on an early version would be 30mins to 1h.
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