omaha hi lo

[CitrusSR]

Would you believe I've just won the 8th game - this is going to my head!!

What about hands like say - 7-6-3-4 double suited? Do you play things like that?

One other thing is, I hardly every raise before the flop?! Do you raise with a lot of hands? Is it standard to play a lot more hands than you do in holdem?

I'm tag in NLHE but in this I seem to be loose passive pre flop and a mixture of TAG / LAG post flop



EDIT - the dream is over - first one out in the 9th game!!!

[Rich Ghost]

Bit of both really. If there is/are raising maniacs on the table let them give you the chips, no need to raise and face a re raise pf.

I have only ever really played O8 and never really played ANY omaha hi so just getting used to it.

As with NLHE, i imagine cash is very diff to tourney play. With these omaha hi MTTs and sngs, i just sit back and let the lunatics smash each other then get stuck in once most of them are gone.

I remember reading ages ago that position didnt matter in omaha. This is so wrong, its huge, but then with these idiots, it means absolutely nothing lol.

I think overall, as its a drawing game, you dont want to be committing a huge portion of your stack pf (in tourneys)so limping and seeing flops is the way forward. Any thoughts on this anyone?

[wilfuljoker]

If you are limping and so is everyone else I think it is difficult to know where you are after the flop. If there are 4 other players coming with you there are 16 (yes 16) cards out against you so how will you know where you are? I still prefer to raise preflop if I have a decent hand. Just don't feel that you have to pot it every time - you can still make standard raises.

[cayton]

As a general rule with top hands you should not raise the pot pre-flop. If you do, you risk your opponents folding as they are going to know you have a strong hand. In texas if you got aa or kk you would play them more aggressively. In omaha slow play good hands because the more players the better. The problem with hi/low is, If you raise and you only get 1 call ) you hit the nuts high they hit the low you only get back what you put in ) The exception to the above is if you are on the button, ( moneys in so blead a little more ) the top hands in omaha hi / low are a-a-2-2, a-a-2-3, a-2-k-k, a-2-qq, a-2-3-4, a-2-k-q, a-2-k-j a-a-k-k, I play the micro omaha hi/low for the rake. last week the 25 k and the 100k freerolls you needed 2200 raked hands to play both, it took me just over 6 hours of play ( multi tables) and 5euro 70 cents to get them. (i thought pretty cheap entry fee )

[swinebag22]

Best advice I ever read on O8 was from Mike matusow.

If you are on the button in a multi limped pot and you are holding high cards, RAISE IT UP!! The reasoning being that the limpers are most likely holding small cards for the lo hand so the flop is more likely to have higher cards, giving your hand a great chance to scoop when no lo hand is possible.

[wilfuljoker]

As a general rule with top hands you should not raise the pot pre-flop. If you do, you risk your opponents folding as they are going to know you have a strong hand.

Errr .... isn't this true in every game of poker? Surely the reasons for raising are the same as in any other game. Why would you think there is less chance of a premium hand being cracked by rags than they would be in Holdem? I would have thought you would still be better off heads up in Omaha just like you are in Holdem rather than against a random selection of hands.

[S6TAV]

Citrus ul in that game dude I only went on to finish 3rd. One guy called every single pot in the game god knows how he cashed. He was a perfect nutter that you want always chasing the lo etc he just seemed uber lucky

When down to 3 I had the cl and got him all in for his last 500 after the flop. He then hit runner runner to stay alive and then two hands later quads

Some say the best starting hand in Omaha hi/lo is AA23DS as Rich Ghost said because you have best chances of the lo plus many ways to hit the wheel and nut flush. Doesn't mean you go mental with it though. If the flop is rainbow high cards this hand is pretty much defunked

[Rich Ghost]

If you are limping and so is everyone else I think it is difficult to know where you are after the flop. If there are 4 other players coming with you there are 16 (yes 16) cards out against you so how will you know where you are? I still prefer to raise preflop if I have a decent hand. Just don't feel that you have to pot it every time - you can still make standard raises.

You are assuming your opponents have at least 2 or 3 brain cells whereas I was refering to the new games on boss really.

The problem with raising in these games is that you will almost certainly face a re raise for almost all your stack by the time it gets back to you and 47 people have all called a re re r e raise lol.

[cayton]

Errr .... isn't this true in every game of poker? Surely the reasons for raising are the same as in any other game. Why would you think there is less chance of a premium hand being cracked by rags than they would be in Holdem? I would have thought you would still be better off heads up in Omaha just like you are in Holdem rather than against a random selection of hands.

If you are heads up with only one other player and they hit the low hand you share the pot, i.e you only win what you put in. So the main diff between hold-em and hi/low omaha is, There is only one winner in hold-em (exception split pot ) and a possible 2 or more in omaha hi / low. In std omaha e.g. pkt aces aa** is not as strong as it is in hold-em.
it becomes stronger when you pair with ( say aakk or a h, a c, 2 h, k c, you then bring into play strs n flushes, These are the hands i was talking about.