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Am playing a live tournament with 4 relatively unskilled players and two good ones. I have about 6000. Blinds 150/300. We are 7-handed (obv) and i pick up 55 in UTG+1. I just limp in (i dont wanna discuss whether i should be raising or even folding here). The short stack to my left ships it for 1800 and the SB and BB both call. They both have about 6.5K and are pretty spewy. Should i call too?
"You have to give way too much action to get way too much action"
If you want to go home early, go ahead and call..
..suppose that is why Dan makes a living playing poker, and I dont !!
EDIT: oooh, Dan slips up, hope for us all yet !
Shoving here makes it very hard for the others to call. Infact it means they can only call with a certain range of hands. However the range in question would have meant they would have shoved or re raised in the first place.
Shoving FTW here. Only because i certain player taught me this. I called with KK and he sucked out on me! lol
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I was at the table (and I hope im one of the 2 good players rather than the 4 relatively unskilled guys - but just in case I'm not, dont say which I am). I figured this to be a call before the flop.
If we move on from your flat call for 300 (as this call is open to a separate discussion elsewhere), then you are putting in 1500 more chips (I thought the shove was 1600 meaning 1300 more, but i could be wrong) into what will be a 7500 pot and straight away are getting good odds with the money on the table. Also, you are last to act so won't get squeezed/isolated. You therefore dont need to increase the pot massively post-flop if you hit your set, but against those types of players you'll get paid so easily to mean the implied odds are healthy. Also, there is a good chance the guys will play passively post-flop in order to checkdown the all-in guy.
As it turned out, Aidan folded and the 5 popped on the flop. Two guys decided to get it all in on a Q52 flop with KQ and a Ten high flush draw and the KQ stood up.
I dont think your argument about commiting a large chunk of your chips is particualrly relevant - had you called and lost then you'd still have a very playable stack (the average was in the region of 6500 chips).
"If you want to go home early, go ahead and call.." Huh?!
I dont think i have any PF FE against two donks. So im not shoving here. I think calling is correct. At the table i was just like "ahhh im never getting them to fold and im never winning a showdown in a 4-way pot. I am a nit.
"You have to give way too much action to get way too much action"
What hands can the donks call with if you shove?Originally Posted by Aidan77
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ATC. Are you seriously saying you believe a spewtard is folding KQs after he just invested 1800 of 6500? Both the donks are deepish. We can call here, investing 1500 to win 7200, with IO to stack the donks, we dont have to isolate the SS. In addition my PF line is limp/raise all in after a shove and two callers. Advanced and poor players will draw the same conclusion about my hand: That im W-E-A-K.
I still think folding isn't terrible but im willing to be persuaded otherwise.
"You have to give way too much action to get way too much action"
Was this an LPL game?
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lols yeah. Probs should have put that it in the original post but i wanted to see what people thought without immediately saying its an LPL so its inherently retarded.
"You have to give way too much action to get way too much action"
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