Is this wrong/cheating?

[tfeilding]

Is it wrong to say to a short stack 'if you go all in blind then I'll call you blind', only for them to shove and you to then look at your cards?

[PokerWoody]

Is it wrong to say to a short stack 'if you go all in blind then I'll call you blind', only for them to shove and you to then look at your cards?

not wrong as in 'in the rules wrong', it's just a bit unethical / scummy.

[lev1athan]

Not IMO. I think the only time verbal declarations should be binding is when the action is actually on that player.

[million$tedz]

morally yes

[Dice Man]

Depends with how much strength you say it. It can easily be construed as a joke or semi-threatening. If I was the short stack I might ask if they agreed to to call blind for sure. Then if they looked I would consider them scummy.

[DonkBox]

I think i'm in the Woody/Dale camp here.

By the by I heard an awesome story about Roberto Rommanello on Friday, quite amusing.

He was playing a largish event at the Bellagio lets say a $5k event and on this particular deal had managed to take a quick peek at his cards without anyone seeing (he had A-A). Anyway there's a raise in middle position and it gets to Romanello in the big blind and he starts talking (does he ever stop lol) saying that he was sick of this guy raising and that hehasn't looked and if he likes his first card he's going all-in. So he peeks at one, insta shoves and gets snap called by 9s!

[ajtombs]

i think if someone said i wil call you if you go all in - and then looks at their cards after saying they wont - looks like a weed / weakling as theyre scared to do it lol

[ivanace]

isn't it ok to say anything, if its either a lie or the truth!

however, scummy is a good term for that play imo

[Dice Man]

People sometimes say "I'm calling with anything" on their BB when everybody's short just to tell the rest of the table that their blind can't be stolen easily. There's no way you could hold somebody to that as if it was a verbally binding statement though. This whole question is context-dependent.

[wilfuljoker]

Does this fall into the same camp as when someone asks you: "If I fold will you show me your cards?" and then you don't? I did this once, quipping "never believe a poker player" but I did indeed feel scummy so tend to be much more jokey and say something like "might do" instead. Afterall, I think the question is being sneaky and trying to abstract information prior to an action so why shouldn't I be equally sneaky in my response? I liked the Matt Dale maneouvre which is to muck the cards, then say "Oh I forgot I said I'd show you my cards" and then pull out any two cards from the pile.