I has question

**RevStu** · 25th July 2008, 09:18 PM

About the Boss poker client. When you're all-in and it shows the odds, does it include cards it knows have been folded/burned but which haven't been shown?

I ask because I was recently all-in with AQ vs AA, and after dealing a flop of K-A-10, the screen showed my chances as 0%. Now, all I needed was a J, and according to Pokerstove I've got a better than 20% shot there. So huh?

**ThePadster** · 26th July 2008, 03:24 AM

its because u run so bad lately, the pcuk software already knows you are out

**RevStu** · 26th July 2008, 10:50 AM

It's funny because it's true...

**Dice Man** · 26th July 2008, 05:31 PM

Don't know what that's about, but I'm pretty sure it calculates the odds based on only what's been shown. If it calculated it based on cards that had been folded then you would never see it say that an under PP has a 5% chance of winning on the river. On a 10-handed table it would either be 0%, 4% or 7%. As you never see that it obviously doesn't use folded hands.

**tfeilding** · 26th July 2008, 10:20 PM

If it did include cards which have been mucked then it could give something away about your hand. Say it is 3 handed and you muck an ace on the button. SB shoves and BB calls. It gets to the river and the SB needs an ace. There should be 3 out there but as you mucked one there are only 2 left in the deck. So his odds will be 5% rather than around 8%. The other guys could therefore deduce you are playing tight.