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    PokerStars Game #17987824196: Tournament #91264226, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/06/07 - 21:30:28 (ET)
    Table '91264226 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: VenturAA (1360 in chips)
    Seat 4: BignRich29 (3080 in chips)
    Seat 5: oscar98 (1680 in chips)
    Seat 6: Steve1107 (1410 in chips)
    Seat 7: Pristine15 (3070 in chips)
    Seat 8: nickoElgros (1470 in chips)
    Seat 9: lenin99 (1430 in chips)
    VenturAA: posts small blind 10
    BignRich29: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Steve1107 [Qh Qd]
    oscar98: folds
    Steve1107: raises 40 to 60
    Pristine15: folds
    nickoElgros: calls 60
    lenin99: calls 60
    VenturAA: folds
    BignRich29: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9s Jd Th]
    Steve1107: bets 210
    nickoElgros: raises 1200 to 1410 and is all-in
    lenin99: calls 1370 and is all-in
    Steve1107: folds
    Uncalled bet (40) returned to nickoElgros
    *** TURN *** [9s Jd Th] [9c]
    *** RIVER *** [9s Jd Th 9c] [Ad]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    nickoElgros: shows [9h Td] (a full house, Nines full of Tens)
    lenin99: shows [Js Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
    nickoElgros collected 3160 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3160 | Rake 0
    Board [9s Jd Th 9c Ad]
    Seat 1: VenturAA (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: BignRich29 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: oscar98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Steve1107 folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: Pristine15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: nickoElgros showed [9h Td] and won (3160) with a full house, Nines full of Tens
    Seat 9: lenin99 (button) showed [Js Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
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    I dont get this post.

    Obviously with 2 all ins this is an insta fold? Unless you have some massive read.
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    A good fold. But did you go on and win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltypies View Post
    I dont get this post.
    Obviously with 2 all ins this is an insta fold? Unless you have some massive read.
    You're absolutely right Ben - except for the fact that I'm such an uberdonk in the past I may have called this either thinking I was actually ahead (doh!) or hoping to spike the open ended straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Mango Fish View Post
    I'd have called here, expecting to be ahead quite a lot of the time.

    As it happens you were massively ahead. 60% vs 15% vs 25%.
    Bugger! - still an uberdonk then.
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    Though maybe not....

    Preflop I'm the favourite I reckon (them's the odds you quote Matt?)

    But post flop, though I probably have the odds to call, I figure I'm not actually ahead anymore and need to outdraw to win, and don't want to put my tourney life at stake at this point. So I fold.
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    On the flop you are 40.5%, the T9 is 43% and the AJ is 16.5%. So while you are behind here (partially because against the T9 the jacks are some of your outs but they give it to the AJ), it doesn't mean that folding is the right move IMO.
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    If you call here your expected stack will be 1555. If you fold it will be 1140. So I think that is probably a call. You'd have to be an amazing player to justify the fold I think. Considering its a $5 game calling is more sensible IMO.
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    It's an interesting spot - I could have called with the odds to draw out, but it's very early in the game and I can fold without too much damage. I'm also thinking that I'm playing better than a lot of my opponents in these low stakes sng's so I can afford to let this go and outplay them later. As it happened in this instance I think I ended up bubbling, but have been doing pretty well generally at these this week.
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    Matt says: "As it happens you were massively ahead. 60% vs 15% vs 25%." and he'd have called. Hmmm, IMO the greatest risk was someone holding KQ and, with 2 all-ins, you have to conclude you're an 'unterdonk' in this case and fold as you did. Great fold as it happens!

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