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    Full Tilt Poker Game #6017112963: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (45805013), Table 1 - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:21:59 ET - 2008/04/13
    Seat 3: snooking99 (13,860)
    Seat 5: SimmoTV (2,260)
    Seat 6: motor7278 (3,960)
    Seat 8: PureMisery (3,910)
    Seat 9: piquetb (3,010)
    PureMisery posts the small blind of 200
    piquetb posts the big blind of 400
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to piquetb [Ad As]
    snooking99 folds
    SimmoTV calls 400
    motor7278 folds
    PureMisery has 15 seconds left to act
    PureMisery raises to 1,200
    piquetb raises to 3,010, and is all in
    SimmoTV folds
    PureMisery calls 1,810
    piquetb shows [Ad As]
    PureMisery shows [Ac Ks]
    *** FLOP *** [6c Td Jh]
    *** TURN *** [6c Td Jh] [Qd]
    *** RIVER *** [6c Td Jh Qd] [3h]
    piquetb shows a pair of Aces
    PureMisery shows a straight, Ace high
    PureMisery wins the pot (6,420) with a straight, Ace high

    Is there any better way of playing AA here ? Folding seems a bit harsh. Stop & go would work better on the actual hand but would give up fold equity against opp drawing to trips etc. Is this just a bad beat or do the chip modellers have anything to offer ?

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    Nothing wrong there, that's just one of the times you weren't fated to win. AA is never guaranteed after all, and favourites lose a specific number of times in the long run.
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    There's no way out - the chump overplaying the AK is going to call you no matter what you do, and very probably all-in even if you try to limp. Personally given the stack sizes I'm probably going all-in straight away rather than 3x raising, but 99% certain it wouldn't make any difference.
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    Thanks, guys.

    Its a recurring (and probably inevitable) theme - getting wiped out with an overwhelmingly best hand when an unlikely procession of cards gives them a straight or flush by the river. Is there a balance where you let them see a flop which is crap for them so they get a chance to fold. Which outweighs getting it all in with a monster pre-flop ? (In tournaments obviously)

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    Both hands destined to get it all in pre-flop with those stack sizes.
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    "on the bubble"? Unless the cash is huge for the last placed cash payout (which is highly unlikely) remember that you are still trying to win the tourney, not just get your money back. I'd have been over the moon holding aces with someone calling my all-in. How else are you going to double up and aim for first place? Pre-flop you have the best hand and as we have discussed numerous times on here, you just can't fold aces preflop. Although it doesn't feel like it, you were very lucky to get all your chips in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan77 View Post
    Both hands destined to get it all in pre-flop with those stack sizes.
    +1

    Doing anything other than shoving would be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevStu View Post
    There's no way out - the chump overplaying the AK is going to call you no matter what you do, and very probably all-in even if you try to limp. Personally given the stack sizes I'm probably going all-in straight away rather than 3x raising, but 99% certain it wouldn't make any difference.

    Just wondering...how would you play the AK if you think they've over played it?

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    Oh, don't mind me, my prejudice is showing - AK overplayers are my poker pet hate. I like to think I'd have the balls to fold it in this situation, but I probably wouldn't.
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    I agree with RevStu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitrusSR View Post
    Just wondering...how would you play the AK if you think they've over played it?
    Yeah, i just assumed he meant underplaying it by not shoving first time round. It is simply impossible to overplay AK with less than 10bbs. lol.
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