A spot straight out of 2004

[PokerWoody]

Everyone is terrible, what is our play here?

Seat 1: Toowild ($93.56 in chips)
Seat 2: Niilex2 ($271.34 in chips)
Seat 3: Celtmikey ($372.32 in chips)
Seat 4: PokerWoody ($336.16 in chips)
Seat 5: Ricmundst ($23.84 in chips)
Seat 6: Engl1sh ($260.41 in chips)
PokerWoody: posts small blind $1
Ricmundst: posts big blind $2
Niilex2: posts big blind $2 + posts small blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to PokerWoody [6 A]
Engl1sh: calls $2
Toowild: calls $2
Niilex2: checks
Celtmikey: calls $2
PokerWoody: calls $1
Ricmundst: raises to $23.84 and is all-in
Engl1sh: folds
Toowild: calls $21.84
Niilex2: folds
Celtmikey: calls $21.84
PokerWoody: ???

[tfeilding]

This looks like a clear fold, but as you are posting it I must be missing something. You are pretty much only drawing to a flush or some flop like A66.

[waltypies]

Yeah calling $21 into a pot of $74 seems ok to me.

You hit hard you get paid.

Dont forget these players are stupidly bad and we are awesome. Who knows we may even be in god mode here as well!

[PokerWoody]

I shoved all in for value in the end. I think our hand has enough equity for a shove to be okay here, especially with these stacks and given that noone, apart from maybe Ricmundst, has a very strong hand here. Even Ricmundst's range is pretty big to be shoving there I think.

It just seemed a funny sort of spot, it's not often you end up completing the small blind in a limped pot and then shoving your hand for value!!

[PokerWoody]

I hope you are certain that the table is full of donkeys because if there is one player with one iota of intelligance then you are getting called.

If they are all donkeys and don't know what you are doing then it's a good spot,this kind of situation usually occurs in sit and go's and even good players that know you are doing it cannot call as in cash games you can just reload.

of course i'm getting called, Ricmundst is all in already! Anyway, I want to get called, i'm not shoving as a bluff, i'm shoving for value. The only person i'd be in trouble againt is Celtmikey just because he'd need a realy good hand to call with thoose stacks, but how often is he limping the button and then calling this all in in a multiway pot with any sort of decent hand?

[PokerWoody]

Yarp, all in dude had K9, caller had KJ.

[Prowler]

did you hold up? i take a flop there, if i underrate the players that much then i lose fold equity and end up spinning for no reason, a favourable flop gives me my fold equity back and limits the suckout value from doing it pre, why coinflip bad players? you'll stack them anyway so no need to give them flips with marginal hands

[PokerWoody]

did you hold up? i take a flop there, if i underrate the players that much then i lose fold equity and end up spinning for no reason, a favourable flop gives me my fold equity back and limits the suckout value from doing it pre, why coinflip bad players? you'll stack them anyway so no need to give them flips with marginal hands

Because I need to hit the board much harder with Celtmikey in the pot and I am out of position against him. Plus, if I call then there is a dry side pot and one guy will have less than a pot sized stack. So there isn't really much value in my implied odds, my hand is good enough to go all in right now. Also, I might miss the flop and still have the best hand against Toowild.

If Celtmikey folds and the other guy calls:

Then the main 3 way pot:

33.277% { Ad6d }
32.101% { 99-22, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, KJo-K9o, QTo+, J9o+ }
34.622% { 22+, A6s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, A9o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

The HU side pot:

53.117% { Ad6d }
46.883% { 99-22, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, KJo-K9o, QTo+, J9o+ }

Plus there is a chance Toowild folds in which case

43.586% { Ad6d }
56.414% { 22+, A6s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, A9o+, K9o, QTo+, JTo }

Basically there is too much dead money in the pot and noone has a very good hand so my hand really isn't as bad as it might look.

Seat 1: Toowild ($93.56 in chips)
Seat 2: Niilex2 ($271.34 in chips)
Seat 3: Celtmikey ($372.32 in chips)
Seat 4: PokerWoody ($336.16 in chips)
Seat 5: Ricmundst ($23.84 in chips)
Seat 6: Engl1sh ($260.41 in chips)
PokerWoody: posts small blind $1
Ricmundst: posts big blind $2
Niilex2: posts big blind $2 + posts small blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to PokerWoody [6d Ad]
Engl1sh: calls $2
Toowild: calls $2
Niilex2: checks
Celtmikey: calls $2
PokerWoody: calls $1
Ricmundst: raises to $23.84 and is all-in
Engl1sh: folds
Toowild: calls $21.84
Niilex2: folds
Celtmikey: calls $21.84
PokerWoody: raises to $336.16 and is all-in
Toowild: is all-in $69.72
Celtmikey: folds
Returned uncalled bets $242.60 to PokerWoody
----- FLOP ----- [As 5h 8c]
----- TURN ----- [As 5h 8c][Qs]
----- RIVER ----- [As 5h 8c Qs][4d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
PokerWoody: shows [6d Ad] (A Pair of Aces, Queen high)
Ricmundst: shows [9s Kh] (High Card Ace)
Toowild: shows [Js Ks] (High Card Ace)
PokerWoody collected $139.44 from Side pot #1
PokerWoody collected $97.36 from Main pot

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