WSOP final table

**waltypies** · 16th July 2007, 09:24 AM

Just a little note to say that there is one brit on the final table of this and he is Chip leader!

SHIT IT to the UK!!!

**DonkBox** · 16th July 2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by waltypies

Just a little note to say that there is one brit on the final table of this and he is Chip leader!

SHIT IT to the UK!!!

John Kalmar (actually third in chips, he has pos on the two most dangerous players at the table though - Watkinson and Kahn) is a really nice guy, met him at the DTD party, great bloke, won his seat in a $500 satellite a few days before the ME started.

There's also two other players with British connections at the FT, Philip Hilm, a Dane who lives in Cambridge and Alex Kravchenko a Russian who resides in Hull.

I've already booked Wednesday off work as will be up all night watching the FT.

**waltypies** · 16th July 2007, 02:09 PM

Read an old update!! Oops

**FirePhil** · 16th July 2007, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by waltypies

Read an old update!! Oops

I think he was chip leader at the non-final final table of 10.

**waltypies** · 16th July 2007, 02:38 PM

ahhhhhh oldupdatesaments!

What this with this ghey final table anyway? Last 2 years they were all guranteed a million.

Why dont they all chop it

**DonkBox** · 16th July 2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by waltypies

ahhhhhh oldupdatesaments!

What this with this ghey final table anyway? Last 2 years they were all guranteed a million.

Why dont they all chop it

It's a flatter pay out structure is you look at 2006s in comparison to 2007. The first bust out last year got $10,616. This year was over 20k, in fact only the top seven this year will make more than the top 18 last year. There were 12 millionaires in 2006, only five this year. Obv the drop off in numbers has had some affect on this but in 2005, when Hachem won it all the FT were gtd a million. So yeah in conclusion payout structure sucks for the FT this year.

**dancoles** · 16th July 2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by DonkBox

It's a flatter pay out structure is you look at 2006s in comparison to 2007. The first bust out last year got $10,616. This year was over 20k, in fact only the top seven this year will make more than the top 18 last year. There were 12 millionaires in 2006, only five this year. Obv the drop off in numbers has had some affect on this but in 2005, when Hachem won it all the FT were gtd a million. So yeah in conclusion payout structure sucks for the FT this year.

All the final table are guaranteed half a mill though. I'm sure they won't be too disappointed with that.

I'm not surprised they changed the structure TBH. To play several days poker, make the cash and then get back only $600 odd more for your $10k buy-in was crap.

**FirePhil** · 16th July 2007, 03:37 PM

Saw this earlier

One Last Time ... How Much is a 10-Way Chop Worth?

Yesterday, I ran some numbers to show what would happen if the entire field decided to chop the prizepool when they reached the final nine tables, the final eight tables, and so on.

I wasn't suggesting that they should actually do it (the complications would be enormous), but it was an interesting thought experiment to look at the prizepool in a different way. It also illustrated just how top heavy it was.

With ten players left, one of them will *still* leave with less money than he would have made if they had chopped the prizepool 81 ways. Tenth place is worth $476,827, while an 81-player chop would have been worth $479,302 each.

We'll run the chop numbers one more time, just for fun.

The prizepool for the final ten players is worth $22,496,827, and if they decided right now, on this break, to chop it evenly ten ways, they would each take home about $2.25 million. (It's easy math; just move the decimal point one place.)

To receive more than that, the players will need to finish in the top three.

**waltypies** · 16th July 2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by dancoles

All the final table are guaranteed half a mill though. I'm sure they won't be too disappointed with that.

I'm not surprised they changed the structure TBH. To play several days poker, make the cash and then get back only $600 odd more for your $10k buy-in was crap.

That has to be the craziest post i have ever seen!!!

The structure is utter crap!! The blinds have been crap this year as well. Why cant they get something right for a big game like this?

**DonkBox** · 16th July 2007, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by dancoles

All the final table are guaranteed half a mill though. I'm sure they won't be too disappointed with that.

I'm not surprised they changed the structure TBH. To play several days poker, make the cash and then get back only $600 odd more for your $10k buy-in was crap.

That's the case in most tournaments though. However, one reason I think they changed it this year was due to the UIEGA and the fact that it limited the number of online qualifiers, many of whom, if thy won $10,616 would make a $10k profit. This year a higher % of the field bought in for the full 10k.