Poker hates me today

[alexross1977]

I suck at poker

POKERSTARS GAME #10239918706: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/02 - 21:15:38 (ET)
Table 'Ino V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sleepzville ($17.85 in chips)
Seat 2: FreakMic ($119.40 in chips)
Seat 3: ihatehorses ($253.55 in chips)
Seat 4: alexrossUKGF ($168.30 in chips)
Seat 5: FleShEaTeR23 ($373.70 in chips)
ihatehorses: posts small blind $1
alexrossUKGF: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to alexrossUKGF [Qh Qs]
FleShEaTeR23: folds
sleepzville: folds
FreakMic: folds
ihatehorses: raises $6 to $8
alexrossUKGF: raises $6 to $14
ihatehorses: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Kd 3c 4d]
ihatehorses: checks
alexrossUKGF: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd 3c 4d] [Kc]
ihatehorses: checks
alexrossUKGF: bets $30
ihatehorses: raises $125 to $155
alexrossUKGF: calls $124.30 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kd 3c 4d Kc] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ihatehorses: shows [6d 5d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
alexrossUKGF: mucks hand
ihatehorses collected $334.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $336.60 | Rake $2
Board [Kd 3c 4d Kc 2h]
Seat 1: sleepzville folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FreakMic (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ihatehorses (small blind) showed [6d 5d] and won ($334.60) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: alexrossUKGF (big blind) mucked [Qh Qs]
Seat 5: FleShEaTeR23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


earlier:


POKERSTARS GAME #10239302905: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/02 - 20:32:04 (ET)
Table 'Lomia V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pnoles ($296.35 in chips)
Seat 2: LastSon ($66 in chips)
Seat 3: DreiZweiEins ($613.45 in chips)
Seat 4: alexrossUKGF ($89.15 in chips)
Seat 5: DMB_LIVE ($264.70 in chips)
Seat 6: rroocckkyy ($200.40 in chips)
pnoles: posts small blind $1
LastSon: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to alexrossUKGF [Qc Qh]
DreiZweiEins: raises $4 to $6
alexrossUKGF: raises $8 to $14
DMB_LIVE: calls $14
rroocckkyy: folds
pnoles: folds
LastSon: calls $12
DreiZweiEins: raises $599.45 to $613.45 and is all-in
alexrossUKGF: calls $75.15 and is all-in
DMB_LIVE: folds
LastSon: calls $52 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8c Td 2h]
*** TURN *** [8c Td 2h] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8c Td 2h Kc] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DreiZweiEins: shows [Ah Ks] (a pair of Kings)
alexrossUKGF: shows [Qc Qh] (a pair of Queens)
DreiZweiEins collected $46.30 from side pot
LastSon: mucks hand
DreiZweiEins collected $210 from main pot
LastSon said, "omfg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $259.30 Main pot $210. Side pot $46.30. | Rake $3
Board [8c Td 2h Kc 9s]
Seat 1: pnoles (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LastSon (big blind) mucked [5c 5s]
Seat 3: DreiZweiEins showed [Ah Ks] and won ($256.30) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: alexrossUKGF showed [Qc Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: DMB_LIVE folded before Flop
Seat 6: rroocckkyy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

+2 20$ Mtt's bubbled in 30th place today thanks to JJ pushes in late position.


Poker hates me.

[lucky_scrote]

the AK vs QQ is no big deal.


The first hand was a great call, i woulda called too.

[alexross1977]

i hear u, just gets on ur tits when u have been playing good all day, yet running sooo bad.

[Gus Mango Fish]

First hand vul, second hand standard.

[RyanVega]

First hand - minreraise preflop gives him odds to call with a massive range and draw to some wacky disguised hand very cheaply which he did. A reraise to around 3.5 his original bet narrows his range by a lot especially as hes OOP. This is also an excellent flop to c-bet, whether you raise or reraise preflop. Im firing over 90% of flops after 3betting pf, and firing this one everytime. Fire about 80% pot and see if he likes his hand.

Betting out at the king on the turn is not bad but its pretty hard to rep a king after checking the flop. Once he raises im out unless I have a very solid read.

Hand two - pretty standard felt with QQ especially with less than half a buy-in. maybe raise a lil more preflop although his implied odds are pretty bad anyway with the effective stack sizes.

[PokerWoody]

Originally Posted by RyanVega

First hand - minreraise preflop gives him odds to call with a massive range and draw to some wacky disguised hand very cheaply which he did. A reraise to around 3.5 his original bet narrows his range by a lot especially as hes OOP. This is also an excellent flop to c-bet, whether you raise or reraise preflop. Im firing over 90% of flops after 3betting pf, and firing this one everytime. Fire about 80% pot and see if he likes his hand.

Betting out at the king on the turn is not bad but its pretty hard to rep a king after checking the flop. Once he raises im out unless I have a very solid read.

I disagree. I think there is more value in checking this flop than there is in bluffing it.

Originally Posted by RyanVega

Hand two - pretty standard felt with QQ especially with less than half a buy-in. maybe raise a lil more preflop although his implied odds are pretty bad anyway with the effective stack sizes.

Yeah, if you had a proper stack then it's probably a fold, but with half a stack whoop it in.

[RyanVega]

Originally Posted by PokerWoody

I disagree. I think there is more value in checking this flop than there is in bluffing it.

This is not a bluff. His range is so so much more than just a king especially considering our small reraise preflop. Many players will call a min 3bet with pretty much any hand they would raise with just for the sake of their image because folding looks so week (I often call here with most of my raising range when we have full stacks, if i have position.) Id be confident we have the best hand here.

Also if he checkraises which is likely with his draw then we can get away pretty nicely. If he check/calls we get value from his draw.

Checking the flop gets us no value from weaker hands, gives draws a free card and gives us no info on where we stand on the turn.

[PokerWoody]

How is it not a bluff? What worse hands call a flop bet and what is your action on the turn if he calls? You have already said you're folding to a raise.

Even hands that might call a flop bet are only calling one street, that is just as likely to be the turn as it is the flop, perhaps moreso even. Also we keep the pot a little smaller and might induce bluffs from hands with no showdown value or maybe a thin v bet from something like JJ.

Its a rainbow board and 56 is really the only draw out there. I wouldn't be concerned with giving free cards, or at least betting to protect against draws, our hand is too marginal for that.

I'd check a lot of hands here against an average player with no history, AK the majority of the time included.

[RyanVega]

- its not a bluff because we likely have the best hand.

- villain is obviously not the greatest of players so i would expect a considerable amount of flop calls from pocket pairs QQ and below, several straight draws, several flush draws, several combo draws of one pair + draw.

- our action on the turn depends on his action on the turn. We have already established we beat most of his flop calling range, so we likely bet again. If he leads then our action depends on our read of him. Possible turn action is also check behind and be prepared to call a modest river lead, this still induces bluffs from hands with no SD value and also possible thin value bets.

- Its not a rainbow board and 56 isnt the only draw, i would be concerned with giving free cards.

- you should be cbetting most hands you 3bet with PF, including AK for a million reasons, fancy play syndrome isnt optimal at 1/2