Hypothetical Situation(s)

[Dice Man]

This sort of thing may have been asked before but it's a classic poker example. I'm going to give a vague description of the hand and then want people to give answers as to how they act depending on circumstances to be mentioned later.

Blinds are 25/50 we are UTG+1
We get AA Raise it TO 150
Button calls, both blinds fold. 375 in pot.
Flop 78Q
We raise 250.
Button makes it 750 in total.

As we are first to act post-flop these are our options: (in descending order of aggressiveness) If we call the turn is a 2, helping no-one. (probably)

a) Fold.
b) Call...check/fold
c) Call...check/call small raises only (0-50% of pot=780ish)
d) Call...check/call any
e) Call...check-raise
f) Call...bet 0-50%/fold to a push (if not committed)
g) Call...bet 50-100%/ fold to a push
h) Call...bet 0-50%/call any
i) Call...bet 50-100%/call any
j) Re-raise "make it 1800"/fold to a push
k) Re-raise "make it 1800"/what the hell call a push
l)Re-raise all in baby

And here are the scenarios I want answers for. Suppose we have no reads.

1. First hand of a $20 stt 9 player, all stacks start at 1000
2. First hand of a $20 100 player mtt (9 on table), 1000 stacks
3. First hand of a $20 stt 9 player, deep stack 5000 chips
4. First hand of a $20 100 player mtt, deep stack 5000 chips
5. First hand of a live £200 500 player mtt, deep stack 5000 chips
6. First hand of WSOP ME $10k buyin, 20k stack, ~8000 players, 10 per table

7. Cash game- (25/50= 25/50c), 9 player, you and opponent have ~$50
8. Cash game- ( 25/50c), 5 player, you and opponent have ~$100
9. Cash game- (25/50=$2/$4), 5 player, you and opponent have ~1000 (1800 chips= $144)
10. Same as 9, you've been playing for 30 mins and your opponent calls any less-than x4 raise with ATC if he has the button. And you are TAG and up from $800 without any showdowns.


Obviously each individual hand should be considered more in-depth and has distinctive features, but from the information given, for each hand, which strategy seems the best? Just list 1-10 and give an answer (even better: give 3 answers in order of the best, the second best and third best strategy for that hand, e.g. "8. i,d,f"). If you know you are giving a controversial answer or one that seems to contradict with your other answers then you could give a brief reason why you are choosing that strategy.

Hopefully this thread will give us a lot of information without arguments and deep discussion (although welcome)

[Rich Ghost]

Nice way of finding out how we all play aces but anyway...lol jk

With no reads, im doing this most of the time:

1. (l) if i lose so be it, start another one. always nice to double up early in these.
2 (e) most people dont raise trips on the flop, granted Q9 is possible. but its still all going in if thats how he/she wants it.
3 (g) plenty of chips, no need what so ever to crack yourself on the first hand.
4 (g) for same reasons as 3.
5 (j)
6 (j) fuk that. if that doesnt slow him/her down im out of there.
7 (i) then (l) ave it!
8 (i)
9 (e) it shouldnt make much difference between the levels but obviously more money is at stake so im more cautious.
10 (l)

Would have done 3 options per situation but time is precious.

[PokerWoody]

1. First hand of a $20 stt 9 player, all stacks start at 1000

l)Re-raise all in baby

2. First hand of a $20 100 player mtt (9 on table), 1000 stacks

l)Re-raise all in baby

3. First hand of a $20 stt 9 player, deep stack 5000 chips

k) Re-raise "make it 1800"/what the hell call a push

4. First hand of a $20 100 player mtt, deep stack 5000 chips

k) Re-raise "make it 1800"/what the hell call a push

5. First hand of a live £200 500 player mtt, deep stack 5000 chips

k) Re-raise "make it 1800"/what the hell call a push

6. First hand of WSOP ME $10k buyin, 20k stack, ~8000 players, 10 per table

d) Call...check/call any

7. Cash game- (25/50= 25/50c), 9 player, you and opponent have ~$50

k) Re-raise "make it 1800"/what the hell call a push

8. Cash game- ( 25/50c), 5 player, you and opponent have ~$100

e) Call...check-raise or b) Call...check/fold or d) Call...check/call any or a) Fold.....or raise.

9. Cash game- (25/50=$2/$4), 5 player, you and opponent have ~1000 (1800 chips= $144)

I am not 250bb’s deep without a read. With no read I might consider a fold, but probably call and evaluate the turn. I am not so concerned about giving a free card on the turn now.

10. Same as 9, you've been playing for 30 mins and your opponent calls any less-than x4 raise with ATC if he has the button. And you are TAG and up from $800 without any showdowns.

I don’t understand this question at all.

[Dice Man]

I'll come up with some answers so it doesnt just look like I am scavving strategies.

1)L,E,I
2)L,E,I (I play these the same I suppose)
3)C,E,J
4)L,E,J
5)G,J,F
6)G,J,F

7)L,I,K
8 )L,I,K
9)J,E,D
10)J,E,K

[PokerWoody]

I'll come up with some answers so it doesnt just look like I am scavving strategies.

1)L,E,I
2)L,E,I (I play these the same I suppose)
3)C,E,J
4)L,E,J
5)G,J,F
6)G,J,F

7)L,I,K
8 )L,I,K
9)J,E,D
10)J,E,K

But what does it mean? One is not an Actuary!!

[Dice Man]

Originally Posted by Diceman
10. Same as 9, you've been playing for 30 mins and your opponent calls any less-than x4 raise with ATC if he has the button. And you are TAG and up from $800 without any showdowns.

The villain has been calling any raise pre-flop as long as it's less than 4x when it's his button so you rightfully suspect he does this with any two cards. So far nobody has seen any of your cards and you are up. IMO this is the kind of player who's going to "get tricky" with you in this spot. Plus the 78Q with flush draw board is draw-heavy and he can make his raise with just a draw probably. Especially as he probably thinks you've been stealing pots already.

But what does it mean? One is not an Actuary!!

I told you this thread would have a lot of information in a brief space. it took me about 15 mins to read and understand RichGhosts post because you have to reference back to the scenarios and strategies.

[PokerWoody]

The villain has been calling any raise pre-flop as long as it's less than 4x when it's his button so you rightfully suspect he does this with any two cards. So far nobody has seen any of your cards and you are up. IMO this is the kind of player who's going to "get tricky" with you in this spot. Plus the 78Q with flush draw board is draw-heavy and he can make his raise with just a draw probably. Especially as he probably thinks you've been stealing pots already.

I don't think this is a flop he will raise as a 'move'

[Dice Man]

I don't think this is a flop he will raise as a 'move'

Then you express yourself in terms of A-L.

[PokerWoody]

Then you express yourself in terms of A-L.

I am not sure what do to here.

[PokerWoody]

it took me about 15 mins to read and understand RichGhosts post because you have to reference back to the scenarios and strategies.

Unfortunately I never took the time to understand either your post or Rich's because I couldn't be arsed to spend 15mins going back and forth.