Seat Selection Question

[PokerWoody]

Okay, I haven’t really constructed this question to have any answers or anything, I just kinda made it up as I was going. Pete kind of touched a bit on this in his article and I'm just curious what people would choose and why.

There are 12 seats available. Which seat would you choose to sit at, which seat would be the worst to take?

The game is £1-£1 PL live.

Player types:

UN – Unknown player
LP – Loose preflop and very passive post flop. Goes too far with weak hands and draws.
LAG – Loose and aggressive, good player
TAG – Tight Aggressive, good player
MAN – Maniac, found the bet and raise buttons, no idea where the fold button is!

Table 1

Seat 1: TAG (£100)
Seat 2: TAG (£100)
Seat 3:
Seat 4: LP (£100)
Seat 5: LP (£100)
Seat 6:
Seat 7: TAG (£100)
Seat 8: LP (£100)
Seat 9:

Table 2

Seat 1: LP (£100)
Seat 2: TAG (£100)
Seat 3:
Seat 4: MAN (£350)
Seat 5: LP (£150)
Seat 6: TAG (£125)
Seat 7: LAG (£200)
Seat 8: UN (£100)
Seat 9: UN (£200)

Table 3

Seat 1: TAG (£210)
Seat 2: UN (£190)
Seat 3:
Seat 4: UN (£140)
Seat 5: LP (£100)
Seat 6:
Seat 7: UN (£85)
Seat 8: UN (£260)
Seat 9:

Table 4

Seat 1: TAG (£200)
Seat 2: TAG (£200)
Seat 3: TAG (£200)
Seat 4: TAG (£200)
Seat 5: TAG (£200)
Seat 6:
Seat 7: TAG (£300)
Seat 8: TAG (£300)
Seat 9:

Table 5

Seat 1: LAG (£250)
Seat 2: TAG (£80)
Seat 3:
Seat 4: LP (£200)
Seat 5: TAG (£200)
Seat 6:
Seat 7: TAG (£200)
Seat 8: TAG (£200)
Seat 9:

[FirePhil]

I'll take Table 2 Seat 3 please. Table 1 Seat 3 is good too.

Table 3 Seat 6 or 9 are pretty rubbish.

Edit: Forgot to put why. T2S3 because there is a deep maniac. Not T3S6 because unknown players are hardest to play against.

[Thor2007]

T1S6 - position on two loose players, good to trap through small bets post flop.

T2S3- deep maniac always good to take a large pot from.

[waltypies]

I will take whatever table a player with a scarf it wearing!! I will sit opposite him.

[PokerWoody]

I'll take Table 2 Seat 3 please. Table 1 Seat 3 is good too.

Table 3 Seat 6 or 9 are pretty rubbish.

Edit: Forgot to put why. T2S3 because there is a deep maniac. Not T3S6 because unknown players are hardest to play against.

Interesting - I hate having Maniacs on my left (good LAG's too), do you feel his stack size compensates for our bad position, or are you not too worried about being OOP here? Perhaps you like our relative position assuming everyone will be checking him a lot?

Also interesting that you say unknowns are hard to play against. Considering the very broad player descriptions I gave, would you say the 'unknown' player is hardest to play against on that list?

[PokerWoody]

T1S6 - position on two loose players, good to trap through small bets post flop.

How do you mean 'good to trap through small bets post flop'?

[Thor2007]

Well if they are loose then they are gonna be involved most pots with a massive range.

Secondly, they are more likely to call bets than to bet out themselves and thus action is likely going to take a pattern of check, check, thor bets small, call, call... next card please.

This is obviously dependant on me flopping a hand strong enough to play a hand in such a way. Kenna James plays like this whenever he flops a big hand, he likes to lead out with small bets rather than trap checking.

[PokerWoody]

Well if they are loose then they are gonna be involved most pots with a massive range.

Secondly, they are more likely to call bets than to bet out themselves and thus action is likely going to take a pattern of check, check, thor bets small, call, call... next card please.

This is obviously dependant on me flopping a hand strong enough to play a hand in such a way. Kenna James plays like this whenever he flops a big hand, he likes to lead out with small bets rather than trap checking.

Yes, but if you have a big hand and they are going to call, wouldn't you rather 'trap' them with big bets?

My thinking is that because they are passive and will call rather than raise with most hands (draws/marginal hands etc), then it is better to have them on your left and the more aggressive players on your right.

[Thor2007]

I tend to find that passive players give respect to big bets, but will casually call smallish bets hoping to improve or to try and make a bluff later on down the line. My experience is limited to mainly one sight and thus my opinion is only based on what I've seen. They normally want to get to showdown as cheap as possible, hence why they dont like firing out incase they get raised. I also like the small bets because if the LP's were to raise it up, you got a good idea where you are. If my bets were large then they would be content to call knowing the pots gonna get huge anyway. Often trying to trap can lead to you bein trapped yourself, and hence why I find the small bets to be the best option.

The fact that I stated that I was only going to play big hands in this way makes it fine to have TAG's on my left, if they are in then all the better, coz I've got a monster.

If I'm fishing or playing speculative cards and the TAG's are showing resistance, then I can fold. It's no crime to fold what could be the best hand(s) on occassion(s) just to have the perfect position on the people that u want to play pots with.

[PokerWoody]

As for TAG players, i don't actually mind if one is to my right or left, i just prefer them to be on some other table because they just decrease the amount of money i win

Very true, I actually think the worst seat there is table 4 seat 6 - sitting in that game is going to be high variance and low profit.