Difference between Omaha and Hi/LO
Sorry not to get this, but could someone explain the difference between these two games please
Cheers
F**k thats a question!Originally Posted by jjh
If you are a decent Pot Limit Holdem player then approach Omaha Hi with EXTREME caution. If you flop trips with two on the board, you could be in extreme trouble!!
Omaha Hi/Lo is a complete effing lottery for me at the moment. Buy Doyle Brunson's Super System 2 and read it very thoroughly indeed. Then play Stud Hi-Lo, it'll give you a better feel for drawing, especially to the low.
Profitable game is Omaha... after you lose stacks learning it!
Basically, try out the games on the play tables first. And do some reading.
Cheers
Rob
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Cheers Rob, I'm got two NL holdem cash games going and trying just a normal Omaha cash game, doing pretty well at the moment. I like the fact both hle cards have to be used, which is a disadvantage to the fish who play for miracles.
Did just get bad beat though. Had AAKQ, flop came KK4 and ended up losing to a fullhouse on river, but I like it so far
hi lo is a game that is better learned through play than through reading imo.
The lo part of the game becomes activated when there are 3 different low cards on the board i.e A through to 8 qualify as low cards.
However, to have a low card u must use two low hole cards to achieve a hand such as A2345 (nut low).
U can then use any other combination of your 4 whole cards to make a hi hand, flush, straight, boat etc. It's a great game, tough to explain but its well worth learning. It's prob my 2nd fav game behind NLHE.
Haggis and richghost play a lot on puk, they will prob explain it better. And prowler plays it too.
Phil on Alexross...
Just realised I didn't answer the question....
Omahi Hi
4 down cards, 3 communitys plus turn and river. Use 2 and ONLY 2 of your holes to make the best hand. Just like hold 'em but more dangerous as draws are your enemy.
Hi/Lo
Same as above. 4 down cards, 3 communitys plus turn and river. Use 2 and ONLY 2 of your holes to make the best hand.
You need an 8 or lower to qualify for Lo.
Nuts Hi Lo is A2345. You have a nuts straight for high plus 54321 for the the low and a scoop.
Scoop means you win both Hi and Lo.
See? Hi-Lo is dead easy! Honest!
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He sets out to overthrow the tyranny of his own personality. He has a vision of a new man — a random man, unfettered by the normal human limitations of habit, routine and predictability. In this lunatic quest, he lurches from one outrage to the next.
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One thing it's important to remember is, how different the value of the hands are.
For example 6 7 8 9 would be a nice starting hand in omaha, but in hi/lo it becomes worthless. For example, if you make a nut straight, you'll only be playing for win half the pot because someone will have the low, and if there aren't 3 cards 8 or lower, it's probable someones beating your straight.
Just apply some common sense, and don't fall in love with any A2 hands you might get in hi/lo.
Regards
Right. What have you got?
"Three pairs."
What d'you mean three pairs? You're only allowed five cards!
"Oh. Shit! Er, two pairs. Well, two and a half pairs."
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"Right, let's get on with the game."
What have you got?
"Five kings."
WTF!!!!! You play hold 'em don't you! I couldn't think of a worse hand unless they're suited, or 10-J- Q flop. Even then you are open to AK
Even then .................... Ah well
Wuddle noted.
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He sets out to overthrow the tyranny of his own personality. He has a vision of a new man — a random man, unfettered by the normal human limitations of habit, routine and predictability. In this lunatic quest, he lurches from one outrage to the next.
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I've been wininng at omaha lately................
Fu*k knows how, mind you!
Last edited by RobDew; 21st February 2007 at 11:33 PM.
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He sets out to overthrow the tyranny of his own personality. He has a vision of a new man — a random man, unfettered by the normal human limitations of habit, routine and predictability. In this lunatic quest, he lurches from one outrage to the next.
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I think you misunderstand me rob, I'm not suggesting for one minute that it's a premium hand, or even a hand that you want to be excited about getting, i'm just trying to show a situation for him where a hand that is playable in omaha in a certain situation(ie. in a multiway pot that's cheap to enter i'd play it.) is significantly less playable in a hi/lo game.
If i thought that was a great hand, i shouldn't be allowed near a poker table lol.
Obviously if the flop comes TJQ you fold, but if it comes 457, you smile. I was just trying to highlight that if it did come 457 in a hi/lo game you'd be playing for half the pot instead of the full put in omaha.
Last edited by Wuddle; 22nd February 2007 at 12:42 AM.
Right. What have you got?
"Three pairs."
What d'you mean three pairs? You're only allowed five cards!
"Oh. Shit! Er, two pairs. Well, two and a half pairs."
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"Right, let's get on with the game."
What have you got?
"Five kings."
Cheers guys, think I'll just stick to normal Omaha.
Quite a nice change to be playing NL but also have a Omaha table open to stop the boredom of NL cash games.
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