Advice here

**waltypies** · 28th January 2007, 09:02 PM

Ok start of a MTT and need a little help with this hand.

Whats the plan on the turn??

POKERSTARS GAME #8166758088: TOURNAMENT #41670682, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2007/01/28 - 15:56:15 (ET)
Table '41670682 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Alex_Moscow (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: leppy0105 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: mgally (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: JT2PLAY (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: rabbitnred (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: waltypies (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: dnil101 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: bpkryloak (1620 in chips)
Seat 9: JD231 (1480 in chips)
mgally: posts small blind 10
JT2PLAY: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to waltypies [Jh Kc]
rabbitnred: folds
waltypies: raises 60 to 80
dnil101: calls 80
bpkryloak: folds
JD231: folds
Alex_Moscow: calls 80
leppy0105: folds
mgally: folds
JT2PLAY: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h Jc Kh]
waltypies: checks
dnil101: checks
Alex_Moscow: bets 80
waltypies: raises 120 to 200
dnil101: folds
Alex_Moscow: calls 120
*** TURN *** [3h Jc Kh] [7s]

**dancoles** · 28th January 2007, 09:05 PM

I'd bet the pot or just under.
You want to get money in the pot but you don't want to give him odds to draw to the flush.

**Matty H** · 28th January 2007, 10:48 PM

I'd bet half as much the pot again. He's likely chasing something. Why give him a chance to hit. If the rivers a heart and he's called a weak turn bet by you then you wont know where you are

**waltypies** · 29th January 2007, 09:25 AM

I bet 550.

He calls

Turn 8

What next?

**PokerWoody** · 29th January 2007, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by waltypies

I bet 550.

He calls

Turn 8

What next?

I probably push given the turn action but a smaller bet or a check may well be better against an unknown. Hmm maybe a min bet! I'm happy to go broke here tho, it's just a question of how!

Incidentally...

Preflop - is this a standard raise for you?
Flop - Why check raise, and why check raise so small?

I assume we are readless as it's the start of the tourney?

**DonkBox** · 29th January 2007, 10:06 AM

this is a stars 180 man sng right?? You're more than likely in front - no doubt he's playing K-9 suited or something. if he's got pocket 3s so be it. Take him to value city (population 1)

**waltypies** · 29th January 2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by PokerWoody

I probably push given the turn action but a smaller bet or a check may well be better against an unknown. Hmm maybe a min bet! I'm happy to go broke here tho, it's just a question of how!

Incidentally...

Preflop - is this a standard raise for you?
Flop - Why check raise, and why check raise so small?

I assume we are readless as it's the start of the tourney?

Preflop Standard raise in these tourneys early on is normally 4 - 5x times the big blind. You will get callers so i want to build up some juicy pots early on

Flop - God knows what i was doing there! Was testing the water a little to be honest.

Yes you are correct in thinking no reads. Never played the player in question.

**waltypies** · 29th January 2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by DonkBox

this is a stars 180 man sng right??

You are correct

**PokerWoody** · 29th January 2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by waltypies

Preflop Standard raise in these tourneys early on is normally 4 - 5x times the big blind. You will get callers so i want to build up some juicy pots early on

Fair enough, i'd never open KJ from this position so early on in the game...but that is probably why I suck at MTT's!!

**waltypies** · 29th January 2007, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by PokerWoody

Fair enough, i'd never open KJ from this position so early on in the game...but that is probably why I suck at MTT's!!

To be honest i agree with you there. I was playing a couple of these last night one i played loose (the one in question) the other one i played like a rock for the 1st hour or so. Just mixing up some plays right now as i got skillz