Call/fold?

[Matty H]

Yes I know my min raise is gay

***** Hand 520635648 *****
100.00/200.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 28 January 2007 11:03:20
STT $30 NL (Real /Tournament )
Seat 2: HitmanDK (2440.00)
Seat 3: MattyH (3600.00)
Seat 4: diman000 (2500.00)
Seat 5: Fafifulno (1200.00)
Seat 8: giladush (2840.00)
Seat 9: RE34dy (2420.00)
HitmanDK post SB 100.00
MattyH post BB 200.00
** Deal **
HitmanDK [N/A, N/A]
MattyH [6c, Kd]
diman000 [N/A, N/A]
Fafifulno [N/A, N/A]
giladush [N/A, N/A]
RE34dy [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
diman000 Fold
Fafifulno Fold
giladush Fold
RE34dy Fold
HitmanDK Call 200.00
MattyH Check
*** Flop(Board): *** : [2d, 6s, Ks]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
HitmanDK Bet 200.00
MattyH Raise to 400.00
HitmanDK All-in 2240.00

[Matty H]

A bit more info required as to my decision here. The guy I'm up against played a hand earlier in the tourney very similar to this where he bet out first then reraised a reraise allin and he had flopped a set

[Dice Man]

Still an easy call.

[Matty H]

And call I did, and a set of 2s he had.

I agree it is an easy call really but the point here is that I didn't use the info I had aquired on this guy. Should I have called having seen him make exactly the same move under almost identical circumstances earlier?

[waltypies]

Yes because people do the same thing all the time!!! Oh and your min raise is so gheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Dice Man]

I don't think you can really infer from somebody's behaviour that they have a set specifically. Just that they have a strong hand. Of all the hands that qualify here as being strong you have one of the stronger ones. The hands he could push with here and believe he is strong would include KK, 66 and 22 which have you beat, K6 for a draw, and you beat K2, 62, AK, KQ, KJ, AA. Depending on the player you'll also add any Kx to those. And that's just if he isn't bluffing or semi-bluffing. From your min-raise he could easily infer that you're on a nut flush draw, so he might push with any pair 77 and above too. Add to that the hands that are total bluffs. If he acts in exactly the same way he did when he had a set before then he might expect you to notice that and fold a strong hand.

[Matty H]

Dice you are reading way tooooooo deep pal

[Dice Man]

Surely you're the one reading way too deep trying to determine that he has a set and that you can fold to his re-raise. And all the information you've been given is that he's min-raised, and then pushed at your min-re-raise, and he also did this once when he flopped a set. That really is so little information that you can't infer anything from it other than that he is saying he has a strong hand: that doesn't even mean he has a strong hand. Only 3 hands beat you, one of them KK which isn't very likely as he limped pre-flop, and 22 you have some re-draw potential. This is a hand I don't even have to think about calling at the time, especially online.

[Matty H]

Surely you're the one reading way too deep trying to determine that he has a set and that you can fold to his re-raise. .

No, cos I was right wasn't I? I was spot on but I called because most of the time, a huge majority of the time I'm ahead. I guess it's about trusting your instincts. I didn't trust mine when I should have done. Not sure what lesson I can learn from that apart from the fact my min reraise was ghey

[Dan147]

This is one of those ones where the voice in your head knows that you're beat but common sense and greed combine to make you go all in. I will someimes go out of a tournament in exactly the same way since I just don't believe that I could have read the other player's hole cards.

I think you have to be very very good to fold here. Did he insta-push after your min-raise?? that would set the alarm bells ringing for me but I'd just put him on 6 2 to justify the call.