AKs - Call all in, or fold?

**POB666** · 24th November 2006, 03:06 PM

Why do think Prowler suggested this

Originally Posted by Prowler

you should play with us occasionally, we been up all night having a right laugh and theres been a few raise reraise all in calls too, only once saw aces though, and luckily i had them!!!

Prowler by name. Prowler by nature.

**jjh** · 24th November 2006, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by dancoles

I'd love to play against you if you assume that everytime I re-raise I've got Aces or Kings !!!

People will pick up on that and just re-raise you more and more !!!

I'm not talking a re raise, I'm talking a raise all in- totally out of proportion with the betting. Say $10 pot after my raise, then he raises $80 and is all in.

You know this guy is tight as well but gets his money in on the big pots.

You'd call with QQ?

**jjh** · 24th November 2006, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by POB666

Why do think Prowler suggested this

Prowler by name. Prowler by nature.

POB666, I think you've had enough digs now- maybe about 5 without me responding... enough already.

Especially as this is coming from the guy who came to the forum declaring he had blown an entire bankroll (probably a student loan) asking for advice!

**Dice Man** · 24th November 2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by jjh

POB666, I think you've had enough digs now- maybe about 5 without me responding... enough already.

Especially as this is coming from the guy who came to the forum declaring he had blown an entire bankroll (probably a student loan) asking for advice!

**POB666** · 24th November 2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by jjh

POB666, I think you've had enough digs now- maybe about 5 without me responding... enough already.

Especially as this is coming from the guy who came to the forum declaring he had blown an entire bankroll (probably a student loan) asking for advice!

Calm Down Calm Down, La

No it wasnt a loan, lol. And im in no way shape of form comparing myself here but even doyle said he's been bust a thousand times. Aint no shame. I got a serious bad run. As its been said on here recently Poker is about making correct decisions not particularly if you win the hand you made them in i.e. knowledge of performance rather than knowledge of results.

Do me a favour and tell us all again what you would do with aces pre-flop when a few players have went all in. YOU BIG PUSSY. LMFAO

**Raiser** · 24th November 2006, 10:55 PM

Here is a REAL discussion about folding AK preflop.... a whole 20 pages! I ve got half way though and i have to say most seem to know what they are talking about.... http://forums.cardplayer.com/forums/...&postorder=asc

**jjh** · 26th November 2006, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by POB666

Calm Down Calm Down, La

No it wasnt a loan, lol. And im in no way shape of form comparing myself here but even doyle said he's been bust a thousand times. Aint no shame. I got a serious bad run. As its been said on here recently Poker is about making correct decisions not particularly if you win the hand you made them in i.e. knowledge of performance rather than knowledge of results.

Do me a favour and tell us all again what you would do with aces pre-flop when a few players have went all in. YOU BIG PUSSY. LMFAO

To go completely bust playing poker- saying correct decisions is what is important over results, whilst true, is not something you have done because you haven't had the sufficient bankroll to handle your bad run. No need to get personal I was just saying enough of the remarks, you had your go and there's no need to keep bringing it up.

By the way, last time I checked, Wirral is not in Liverpool

**jjh** · 26th November 2006, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Raiser

Here is a REAL discussion about folding AK preflop.... a whole 20 pages! I ve got half way though and i have to say most seem to know what they are talking about.... http://forums.cardplayer.com/forums/...&postorder=asc

Good link, I think there are reasons for and against folding AK, each side making good points. A good point raised in that forum was that if these guys are loose, you can get them into big pots when you are in a slightly more comfortable position, the times when you get to see the flop before going all in perhaps.

Also mentioned- it depends on the opponent- if they are raising all in a lot pre flop and you've managed to see a couple of their hands- like raising all in with AQ suited, then calling is positive. If an extremely tight player who you know only raises all in with AA or KK (you've played him many times and have seen his hands when he gets a caller for example), then folding is what I would do. Sure, the tight player may bluff a few if he knows people respect him, but not often, otherwise he's going to get called down if he does it too much.

**POB666** · 26th November 2006, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by jjh

No need to get personal

When did i get personal? I dont know you so how could i get personal

Originally Posted by jjh

By the way, last time I checked, Wirral is not in Liverpool

Who said you were from liverpool?

Originally Posted by jjh

To go completely bust playing poker is not something you have done because you haven't had the sufficient bankroll to handle your bad run.

In the post post i did state that i was playing over my head, i took a shot and missed. Big deal. I'd sooner do that than not have the ARSE to play AA before the flop.

**jjh** · 26th November 2006, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by POB666

When did i get personal? I dont know you so how could i get personal

Who said you were from liverpool?

In the post post i did state that i was playing over my head, i took a shot and missed. Big deal. I'd sooner do that than not have the ARSE to play AA before the flop.

Well if you read the rest of my posts, you'd know that I played the AA hand, I was just raising something for the forum, it wasn't anything to do with AA itself, it was the situation, but not worth bringing it up all over again.

Well call me stupid but I thought the picture of the scouser and you saying calm down la was taking the piss.

Just forget it now anyhow