Top 2 against LAG.

**Thor2007** · 15th November 2006, 09:29 PM

How are we gonna continue here? I have been at the table for about 15 hands and already I can see that the two big stacks are raising from any position for at least 3xBB. I know 15 hands it way too soon to have a good idea of each player, but gut instinct told me that these guys were just bullies.

Are we gonna play fast and hard here or do we think this is a position for milking? On the flop I had no doubts that I had the best hand. Do you think this is a reasonable assumption and how should I progress? What am I doing if he stands against whatever I choose to do?

I am button+1 here.

***** Hand 462493945 *****
0.50/1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 15 November 2006 20:57:36
Table TH 437 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: FINJACK (199.90)
Seat 2: snah22 (175.07)
Seat 3: Gamblerand (61.95)
Seat 5: Thor2006 (97.00)
snah22 post SB 0.50
Gamblerand post BB 1.00

** Deal **
Thor2006 [Js, Qc]

*** Bet Round 1 ***

Thor2006 Call 1.00
FINJACK Fold
snah22 Raise to 4.00
Gamblerand Call 4.00
Thor2006 Call 4.00

*** Flop(Board): *** : [2c, Qd, Jc]

rest of the hand shall follow after a few answers...

**Prowler** · 15th November 2006, 09:31 PM

calling with crap and hitting as usual, hope they sucked out on you with a flush

**Thor2007** · 15th November 2006, 09:32 PM

Thanks Prowler, I'll take your money later... as usual.

**Thor2007** · 15th November 2006, 10:30 PM

Forgot in my original post that Snah22 bet $7 and the other player folded. Action on me...

**Dice Man** · 15th November 2006, 10:38 PM

I raise. You say that they've both been playing all kinds of hands here so it's plausible that they have the straight draw, flush draw or top pair. Of course they could always have JJ, QQ, 22 but I doubt it. I'd consider min-raising here. If you get a call and a blank on the turn then all in (or big raise, whatever). I'd also check the turn if you make a full house. If one of the straight/flush cards come then if he checks the turh i raise again, but not too hefty. If he raises when one of those come I'd have to think about it.

**POB666** · 16th November 2006, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Dice Man

I raise. You say that they've both been playing all kinds of hands here so it's plausible that they have the straight draw, flush draw or top pair. Of course they could always have JJ, QQ, 22 but I doubt it. I'd consider min-raising here. If you get a call and a blank on the turn then all in (or big raise, whatever). I'd also check the turn if you make a full house. If one of the straight/flush cards come then if he checks the turh i raise again, but not too hefty. If he raises when one of those come I'd have to think about it.

For a change i agree with him

**PokerWoody** · 16th November 2006, 09:51 AM

Fold preflop, limp calling dominated hands from EP is a terrible plan unless you hate money, especially against aggressive opponents.

As played i'd raise it up now, don't let them bully you, you should be the bully at the table. I'd probably make it about $25 which is something like a 3/4 pot raise.

**PokerWoody** · 16th November 2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dice Man

I raise. You say that they've both been playing all kinds of hands here so it's plausible that they have the straight draw, flush draw or top pair. Of course they could always have JJ, QQ, 22 but I doubt it. I'd consider min-raising here. If you get a call and a blank on the turn then all in (or big raise, whatever). I'd also check the turn if you make a full house. If one of the straight/flush cards come then if he checks the turh i raise again, but not too hefty. If he raises when one of those come I'd have to think about it.

LOL this is pretty much exactly how NOT to play the hand.