Top 2 against LAG.

[Thor2007]

Fold preflop, limp calling dominated hands from EP is a terrible plan unless you hate money, especially against aggressive opponents.

As played i'd raise it up now, don't let them bully you, you should be the bully at the table. I'd probably make it about $25 which is something like a 3/4 pot raise.

Who said I was dominated. The guy raised every other hand, I've already seen 79o at showdown from a preflop raise.

on with the hand.

*** Bet Round 2 ***
snah22 Bet 7.00
Gamblerand Fold
Thor2006 Raise to 17.00
snah22 Call 17.00
*** Turn(Board): *** : [2c, Qd, Jc, Qs]

*** Bet Round 3 ***
snah22 Bet 17.00
Thor2006 Bet 17.00
** River(Board): *** : [2c, Qd, Jc, Qs, 3h]

*** Bet Round 4 ***
snah22 Bet 33.00
Thor2006 All-in 61.00
snah22 Call 61.00

*** Showdown *** :
snah22 Muck Win :0.00
Thor2006 [Js, Qc] Full house Win

[waltypies]

Nice hand.

My honest view on this would be that i dont like the call pre flop. However saying that if you are playing against 2 LAG players there could be an arguement for calling.

As for flop play i would have called his bet on the flop hoping to improve my hand which you did. The rest of the play is easy from you improving.

See the trouble with you raising would be that if you dont improve your hand you could well be easily behind. Anyway its just my view and no doubt i am wrong. But i say flat call on the flop and see what we have to come. Failing that fold that trash preflop!! lol

[PokerWoody]

Who said I was dominated. The guy raised every other hand, I've already seen 79o at showdown from a preflop raise.

Raising 79o doesn’t make him a maniac

You might not be dominated but it’s going to be hard to know where you are when the flop comes down Jack high. You will end up in a position where you are folding the best hand to often or being forced to play a big pot with a marginal hand. These are both things we’d like to try and avoid if possible. On flops like this it's not so much of a problem becuase we figure to be ahead nealy always however generally the flop isn't going to be so kind when we hold these sorts of hands. You also ended up with the advantage of being on position on this hand, normally when you limp call from UTG, you won't be.

[POB666]

Thats an appropiate smiley... is it crack you are smoking?

Crystal Meth, Crack's so late nineties

[Dice Man]

Min raise on the flop: Thats one intresting play mr diceman.

Just out of intrest can you explian your logic behind that statement?

Yeah if you min-raise you'll find out the strength of their hand. If they call it's either a flush, straight draw or top pair. We don't have a flush draw or straight draw but if we did it's very possible we would min-raise here. So if our opponent has a hand and is scared of the flush/straight draw he should re-raise our min-raise here. Thor says he's confident he's ahead and he is always right about these things so when they re-raise that's when you take all their chips.