How wrong did i play this hand :(

**waltypies** · 17th September 2006, 01:59 PM

Ok early on in a MTT we have around 300 odd runners left and we are over the average stack.

As we are early on in the tounrey some of the usual fish are still in. Blinds have been raised to 15/30 and we have 1,840 (nice)

Right this is on Pacific Poker so i can only see the video of the hand.

The table is 8 handed

pin70(1762) is SB
waltypie(1840) is BB with K

Q

mehot (852) folds
robbo57 (2012) calls for 30
tomo444 (1965) folds
mm31 (1130) calls for 30
123NT (1100) calls for 30
RFPSR (1105) folds
Sweety79 (1424) folds
pin70 calls for 15
waltypie checks!! Ok how many of you would have checked as well. Was considering a raise but far too many limpers for my liking.

Pot is 150

Flop

4

K

Pin70 checks
waltypie checks (hehehe i am going to be sneaky here)???
robbo57 bets 30!!! FFS another min bet
all others fold to me!
I flat call as i am hoping to make a move on the turn regardless

Turn

10

waltypie checks
robbo57 bets 30.
waltypie raises 60 to 90
robbo57 raises 471 to 561

Ok now i have totally slowed played this and i am not 100% certain where the hell i am now. I am guessing i am beat with 4,4, 10,10 K,4 K,10 or AK

So whats the next move? Jam back all in? Fold?

**s4ooter** · 17th September 2006, 03:31 PM

wow that is kinda a difficult spot to be in.......

44 is a possibility as he limped but depends on info u have on the player, id expect a fish to be raising preflop with 44?!?!?

definatly not 10 10, just cant believe it woulda been played out that way, after the flop he woulda bet bigger to see where he stood instead of the minimum bet, too weak for my liking?!

K4 - if suited the roach (fish lol) may have limped in with that u never know?!?!?? although all this minimum bet action tends to warn me off this hand

AK - nah this hand is valued too highly by soooo many players i play on net, i think he woulda raised pre flop and hit the flop big too......

THIS IS WHAT I THINK

i think he has suited 9 10 or maybe even 910o so i think u r in the lead, i think he bet on the flop little as everyone checked infront and he figured he would try and steal it there (why the minimum bet i dont know!!) if he had a big hand surely he would have checked on flop and waited for someone else to bet into the pot so he can reraise?????

mmmm i deffo think he had a 10, so the hand list is 8 10,9 10, J 10 something in that range

push and take his money!!!!!

**neildowse** · 17th September 2006, 04:17 PM

He did limp under the gun and keep betting minimum, could be a fish who believes deep down that AA is invincible and must be bet small until someone else reacts. Thing is, I've seen fish play AK this way too, especially on a flop like that. Tough decision, I'd probably go all-in unthinkingly

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**Wuddle** · 17th September 2006, 06:02 PM

My opinion is that he's called under the gun with K7/K8/K9/KT and was slow playing like you.

Sees you betting on the turn and he thinks you're drawing with JQ or 2 clubs and is trying to price you out.

So i'd call and expect to be winning.

**Hedonist** · 18th September 2006, 07:56 AM

I would call here, he may have you beaten but could easily have two pair, possibly A T and think his ace kicker is good, his bet is too large to put him on a draw (J Q of clubs).

**waltypies** · 18th September 2006, 09:14 AM

But any comments on how badly i played this?

**alexross1977** · 18th September 2006, 10:24 AM

you played it fine IMO - when raised you are prob looking at AK or perhaps a remote chance of a full boat - what happened? did u fold (I am guessing not)...