Omagh........

[Raiser]

I have a regular home game and i was thinking of experimenting!!!.........

I have always been intrigued by Omagh High (the hi/lo is too confusing!).....i understand the game but not the betting structures!!!

Is pot limit ok?? i noticed in a few poker rooms they have 'Omagh - FL' anyone any ideas how the betting structure works on that??? or if anyone has had a Omagh home game any chance of some tips!!!?????

[Raiser]

Yes, i know ive spelt 'Omagh' wrong!!!!

[Top Pair Ace Kicker]

Depends on if you want to run it tourney style or a cash game. Fixed limit is only any use if you are playing cash. I usually play 0.50/1 dollars cash on Poker.co.uk but much preferred it when I played pot limit tournaments on Betfair where everyone started with 1500 or 2000 chips iirc. (its been a long time)

It was quite common to have a ten seater tournament reduced to about 5 or 6 in one orbit of betting! Great if you are the main beneficiary!

I wouldnt mind playing a live game if it was tourney style. I only really play cash online, where, as we all know, the cash isnt "real".....

Saying that, whereas I dont mind playing Pot limit online, where there is a little button that says "bet pot" or a slider to increase to the maximum available, pot limit live games really hack me off, as you hear "So, how much can I bet/raise then?" so many times the game takes three times as long as a no limit game. My advice would be to play maybe multiple no limit omaha tourneys, or have a Texas game too.

[Raiser]

My advice would be to play maybe multiple no limit omaha tourneys, or have a Texas game too.

Thanks for the reply and i was thinking of something similar. I was going down the line of a double chance freezeout for low stakes as its quite experimental!!

As for the NL Omaha i dont know if it will work!? There are so many drawing hands and possibilities i think Pot limit would be best!!

Iam not a great fan of cash games so it will be a tournie or nothing for me!!!

Ive never played live pot limit - and the computer normally comes in handy calculating the bets etc.... can someone clafify how the first round of betting starts?? For example if blinds are 100/200 what can UTG bet??

[FirePhil]

At 100/200 UTG can raise to 700 as there is 500 in the pot (100 SB + 200 BB + 200 UTG call). The only confusion in PL is forgetting to add the call to the size of the pot, so in this case they might think they can only raise to 500.

I've never seen Omaha played NL, I'd stick with PL if I were you. To make things easier use chip denominations that are easier to deal with. For example, instead of 5000 chips starting at 25/50 do 20000 starting at 100/200. It's a lot easier to keep track of the pot without a whole load of 25 chips in there, just use 100s, 500s, 1000s and 5000s and it will be more straightforward.

Also get into the habit of the dealer stacking the chips in the pot to make counting easier. If the dealer keeps track of the pot size (or another player if the dealer is involved in the hand) it will speed things up.

[Raiser]

At 100/200 UTG can raise to 700 as there is 500 in the pot (100 SB + 200 BB + 200 UTG call). The only confusion in PL is forgetting to add the call to the size of the pot, so in this case they might think they can only raise to 500.

I've never seen Omaha played NL, I'd stick with PL if I were you. To make things easier use chip denominations that are easier to deal with. For example, instead of 5000 chips starting at 25/50 do 20000 starting at 100/200. It's a lot easier to keep track of the pot without a whole load of 25 chips in there, just use 100s, 500s, 1000s and 5000s and it will be more straightforward.

Also get into the habit of the dealer stacking the chips in the pot to make counting easier. If the dealer keeps track of the pot size (or another player if the dealer is involved in the hand) it will speed things up.

Some good tips there.....thanks

[PokerWoody]

Depends on if you want to run it tourney style or a cash game. Fixed limit is only any use if you are playing cash. I usually play 0.50/1 dollars cash on Poker.co.uk but much preferred it when I played pot limit tournaments on Betfair where everyone started with 1500 or 2000 chips iirc. (its been a long time)

It was quite common to have a ten seater tournament reduced to about 5 or 6 in one orbit of betting! Great if you are the main beneficiary!

I wouldnt mind playing a live game if it was tourney style. I only really play cash online, where, as we all know, the cash isnt "real".....

Saying that, whereas I dont mind playing Pot limit online, where there is a little button that says "bet pot" or a slider to increase to the maximum available, pot limit live games really hack me off, as you hear "So, how much can I bet/raise then?" so many times the game takes three times as long as a no limit game. My advice would be to play maybe multiple no limit omaha tourneys, or have a Texas game too.

I'd go the exact opposite to this post. I think it works best as PL (which is how it's played in nearly every casino in the UK) Fixed limit is okay if you like FL but as a holdem tourney player I guess this isn't the case

I don't like omaha in tournement form as the variance is simply to high for me. Tourments, especialy against weak players, often turn into a pre flop game. The best you can be at omaha preflop is 60-40 (compared with about 80-20 in holdem) which leads to silly situations where the game becomes too hard to beat in the short term without much patience and a proper bankroll.

For me omaha is played best as a cash game, and wonderful caqsh game it is too! As TPTK said, you will meet some crazy players who just want to give you thier money....however beware, you will also see variance like you haven't seen playing holdem, especialy at the low limits.

[Top Pair Ace Kicker]

I'd go the exact opposite to this post. I think it works best as PL (which is how it's played in nearly every casino in the UK) Fixed limit is okay if you like FL but as a holdem tourney player I guess this isn't the case

I know that most casino games are pot limit, which is one of the reasons I rarely go. It just seems like a waste of time, when someone raises the pot, then another player will raise again leaving themselves so little it is obvious that either the initial raiser will chuck all their chips in either calling or raising what they have left, or they will be going all in whatever cards flop.

In casino rebuy games where the starting stacks are so low I dont know why they dont save time, cut the chase and go no limit.

I like the idea of Phils to start with bigger blinds and stacks though. That makes a lot of sense. Its the 25 and 75 pots that take so long to add up.