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    Quote Originally Posted by manchestermurph@fsmail.ne
    youve gotta call,the best he can have is 99 or the same as you so a possible split pot,or is he trying a steal,you must of called
    Quote Originally Posted by Matty H
    Back to the hand: I called, and having read your replys in here (many thanks ) I at least feel better about the outcome. Bottom line is he showed his quads
    Top full house running into quads 99.99% of the time you lose your stack. The rest of the time they accidentally muck their hand, which is hard to do when they're all-in online

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirePhil
    The probability of them having 99 vs the probability of them having worse than queens full is the only factor in this particular hand. If you think you win the pot more often than you lose it then call, otherwise fold.
    Thanks for your points mate, I fully agree. But what I'm saying is that once the cards are dealt, the percentage that works out the probability of him having the cards (99) is no longer relevant, for me anyway. It was very likely that Matty had a queen as he raised quite confidently, so the other player would have to be very confident he had 99 to do such a huge bet, because there was no split pot for him if he only had 999 (as he never had the queen), so unless 9999 he goes bust.

    Sure, you would win this pot more than not, but considering the opponents bet (plus you'd have to check his previous play as you said), I may have considered folding due to the size of his confident bet. At the end of the day, once the cards have been dealt it is an even playing field for me, just because those cards should win in probabilty, the size of a players bet has to fit into the equation too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjh

    Sure, you would win this pot more than not, but considering the opponents bet (plus you'd have to check his previous play as you said), I may have considered folding due to the size of his confident bet.
    That was the thing see. As I said earlier in the thread, this guy had made some outragious raisies during other hands, been called and won when there were two or three potentially better hands out there. You could say his reading of a player play is very good. You could also say he's a lucky sod. Personally I think he was lucky on the hand I got involved with. I called based on the fact that I didn't believe he had the only hand that could beat me, plus his earlier play left me in no doubt. Of course, I was ultimately wrong, but that's poker as they say (hate that phrase )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty H
    That was the thing see. As I said earlier in the thread, this guy had made some outragious raisies during other hands, been called and won when there were two or three potentially better hands out there. You could say his reading of a player play is very good. You could also say he's a lucky sod. Personally I think he was lucky on the hand I got involved with. I called based on the fact that I didn't believe he had the only hand that could beat me, plus his earlier play left me in no doubt. Of course, I was ultimately wrong, but that's poker as they say (hate that phrase )
    Yeah, he got a very lucky lucky hand mate as you said. That is my opinion on it though, it was a huge risk to go all in on for him with 999 as it was clear you probably had the queen as you rasied too, which would have well beat his 999. So his raise had to be confident, albeit 4 of a kind confident! Although you can never tell.

    I had something similar to a player but not as drastic as this about a week ago- player (on the same blinds too, could be same guy lol) was raising with very little which could have been beaten by better hands, I got sick of it and on one of them after hitting 2 pair on the flop, a K came on the turn then a J and he started raising after the turn, so I thought he probably had one pair with the kings, turned out he had hit the straight off the flop- bad play on my part but I suppose these players know what they are doing!

    A lot of people may not agree, but I've had success recently with Limit poker! No limit has proved to expensive- I play well then lose my entire stack to an inevitable bad beat- whereas I can grind out profits in limit poker, and on the bigger blinds, you can make a few few dollar! Plus you get the chance to call more often and learn whether your opponents are bluffing the majority of the time!

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