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    Default A Hand which prompted a little moan...

    Seat 1: BB ($211.25 in chips)
    Seat 2: UTG ($94 in chips)
    Seat 3: UTG+1 ($101.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Moaning Murtle ($86.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: BTN ($79.36 in chips)
    Seat 6: PokerWoody ($199 in chips)
    PokerWoody: posts small blind $0.50
    BB: posts big blind $1
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to PokerWoody [7 5]
    UTG: raises to $2
    UTG+1: calls $2
    Moaning Murtle: folds
    BTN: folds
    PokerWoody: calls $1.50
    BB: calls $1
    ----- FLOP ----- [5 4 7]
    PokerWoody: bets $8
    BB: folds
    UTG: calls $8
    UTG+1: raises to $40
    PokerWoody: raises to $136
    UTG: folds
    UTG+1: is all-in $59.50
    Returned uncalled bets $36.50 to PokerWoody
    ----- TURN ----- [5 4 7][J]
    ----- RIVER ----- [5 4 7 J][5]
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    PokerWoody: shows [7 5] (A Full House, Fives full of Sevens)
    UTG+1: shows [7 6] (Two Pairs, Sevens and Fives, Jack high)
    PokerWoody collects $212 from Main pot

    Dealer: PokerWoody wins pot ($212) with A Full House, Fives full of Sevens
    Moaning Murtle: can't beat dumb luck
    PokerWoody: ty
    Moaning Murtle: yw
    Moaning Murtle: only speak the truth here
    Dealer: miritel wins pot ($168.50) with Three of a kind, Tens, Nine high
    Moaning Murtle: see what I mean
    Moaning Murtle: I had aces - dumb, stupid luck hits on the river
    Moaning Murtle: pure stupidity
    Moaning Murtle: PokerWoody and miritel are flat stupid
    PokerWoody: hehe
    Moaning Murtle: you;ll think hehe when you go broke
    Moaning Murtle: which you are destined to do
    Moaning Murtle: mark my words
    PokerWoody: I won't go broke
    PokerWoody: i'm too lucky
    Moaning Murtle: I'm sure you lose big time everytime you play
    Moaning Murtle: oh yes you will
    Moaning Murtle: luck is fickle
    PokerWoody: whatever
    Moaning Murtle: and dumb luck is even more fickle
    Moaning Murtle: you bet whatever, stupid

    As for the hands its self, anyone who's ever played with me know how much I love 75o so I fold this hand < 1% of the time in this spot. I have nearly 3k hands on UTG+1 in my PT DB so know his game fairly well and was fairly sure he has some kind of drawing hand although he will show me a set sometimes here too. He loves to semi bluff but is not normally so aggresive with the flopped nuts even when he should be protecting his hand, I think he waits for a non diamond turn to stick it on most of the time here but he would call with an UTG min raise with something like 86. I had his range down as JJ-44,76, 65 and any two diamonds. I think he views me as aggressive and he knows i'm a winning player. UTG could have been a problem but I think he raises any hand that he can call my 3 bet with on the flop with the execption of an unlikely flush draw which he may now fold anyway.

    I don't think this hand was as bad as Murtle thinks it was but I am frequenlty wrong on these things. What do you guys think? Also, my stats for the session so far were 15/8/4, mainly becuase I hadn't been getting any cards, so it's not like i'd been LAGging in up or anything.

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    nice hand - well done. Great example of tilt from the aptly named moaning murtle.

    can you explain the meaning of your "stats" 15/8/4 ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipfire
    nice hand - well done. Great example of tilt from the aptly named moaning murtle.

    can you explain the meaning of your "stats" 15/8/4 ??
    15 is the percentage of times I have voluntarily put money in to the pot preflop. 8 is the percentage of times I have raised pre flop and 4 is my aggression factor.

    The player wasn't actually called Moaning Murtle, I changed his/her name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerWoody

    The player wasn't actually called Moaning Murtle, I changed his/her name.

    Thanks. Oops - guess I'm just too gullible! NeVer make a poker player will I?!!!


    So are you using some software to work those stats & calculate your agression factor?

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    He he, VERY nice Woodster!!! "You'll be saying he he when you go broke".... I bet that one tickled your ribs a little. That's tilting/drunken/fighting talk that is.

    Are they always this bitter when they lose through their own stupidity???

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerWoody
    15 is the percentage of times I have voluntarily put money in to the pot preflop.
    Do you mean 'called'? As opposed to...

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerWoody
    8 is the percentage of times I have raised pre flop
    Also...

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerWoody
    and 4 is my aggression factor.
    ...what is your scale for the aggression factor? Where did you pick this equation up (who came up with it)?

    Just interested, as I've seen you use this before, but didn't know what it meant...

    Thanks!
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    Voluntarily put money in means anything other than the blinds if i'm not mistaken, so raises and calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian
    Voluntarily put money in means anything other than the blinds if i'm not mistaken, so raises and calls.
    spot on.

    If i'm raising half the hands i'm playing then my stats look something like 30/15/AF. AF = (Raise + Bet) / Call

    If you don't use poker tracker then you aren't serious about winning money playing poker. All stats mentioned are standard PT stats.

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    Has Waltypies changed his username?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfeilding View Post
    Has Waltypies changed his username?
    LOL

    Nah i have calmed down recently. Dont know why?
    I breasts and muffs

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