William Hill...RIVERED???
Does anyone else play poker with William Hill and if so how many times do u get rivered. U will be well in the lead with only one card which can beat u and it always comes out on the river. Is this the same with most online poker or just WH?
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I play all the time there, I see your point as it does get silly sometimes, but you get that "beaten by the river" chesnut or a variation of it at most poker sites. Comments like "typical laddies" or "Will Hill does it again" often spring into the comment box. I suppose that's better than slagging off the winner.
Some might speculate the software 'favours' people for a while...but I just can't say..I'd like to think it's down to luck but the human mind can think up all sorts of reasons for bad beats. My first poker site was Ladbrokes and being pretty unexperienced in the game I was well chuffed to play $2/$4 limit games and start with about $150 and be upto $700 in a couple of hours. This happened on my second visit aswell. Knowing what I know now...I must have been damn lucky those days or the program was perhaps favouring a new user? enticing me in with the lure of easy money? Unlikely but not dismissable. To get that kind of result since has been very hard, as I only play lo limit cash games, saving higher stakes for tourneys. Currently my taboo 'strong' hand is 2 pair, it's been losing almost 100% recently but not say 6 months ago. I'm also going through paranoid thought's with 2 of the same suit in the hole. I've seen an unreal amount of flops come either all the opposite colour or each of the other suits I don't have. If you bet on those outcomes, you'd be a pretty rich man the number of times I've had it. Still, you notice this kind of stuff when you lose, or don't hit, for example I remember my hole cards being dealt 7 2 off much more than AA regardless of whether one has come more than the other, so in my mind, I *always* seem to get 7 2 off.
Back to your point...what limit do you play at? The lower the limit then the more likely you will be called down to the river and possibly beaten on it. I'm not doing too badly from the river at the moment on Will Hill but I'm sure it will all change, as I hope it will for you. I think that you are ultimately playing mind games with yourself. Best not to dwell on it too much and move on to the next hand..or even another site if it bothers you.
Last edited by kidgloves; 29th April 2005 at 06:38 PM.
Confucius say "man who know wombat know more than stupid looking monkey"
Confucius also say "man who know Kebab has 60 inch waist"
Confucius finally add "man may deal, but man may not 'know' deal"
Yeah i've notice people saying that the WH software favours the big stacks. Or that the site gets "charged" when lots of players are in a tourney. My housemate always says things like "no 3 no 3" when the 3's the only card in the deck that can get her in trouble and then blames latent psychic powers for her misfortune. LOL It was really scary when she said no 8 of clubs and that came giving this guy a straight flush.
Personally I think its all paranoia its like saying someone is always "lucky"- I think that because people see so many hands online and coupled with the fact they might playing two or more games at once or entering several tourneys in one session. You just see so many more than you would in a "live" tourney so they seem more common.
[ i rarely remember how i get a stack in a tourney apart from a couple of great hands but I sure as hell remember how i lose it all!
Luckily most programs have a log viewer to check hands played - so if you wanted you could compare how many genuine hands get "rivered" - bet you its a low amount.
Last edited by Oinkment; 4th May 2005 at 12:41 AM.
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If you dont think to good - dont think too much.
Every online site that I play on has players who type comments such as "typical [insert site name]" when someone hits a lucky card.
One wonders why these people would play somewhere that they believe is disadvantaging them.
In most cases, they simply don't understand the odds of a given event happening and the implications of that. Also, as oinkment says, you remember the painful losses (the times when your aces get cracked by an underpair for example) a lot more readily than the times when they hold up.
To add an analogy that I've just thought of, I'm pretty sure that if you were to take a straw poll of football fans now at the end of the season, I'm pretty sure that a healthy majority would claim that their team had had the rough end of refereeing decisons throughout the season.
They can't all be right, they simply remember the offside goal that cost them a win far more vividly than the offside goal that won them a game.
It happens, thats poker. If it annoys you when people get lucky then the game isnt for you!
Simple answer....Always have the big stack
Let me guess what you have been seeing!
All in?
flop comes, then the turn followed by a big pause and then a river card that will favour the losing hand to give them the hand?
If this is the case and i have witnessed this more times than i care to see, dont go all in on any crypto site.
While playing a multi tourney one day the above happened so i pointed this out to others on the table.It got to the stage where the whole table were calling the river card before it came.....Coincidence??? i think not!
The pause is there to add dramatic effect not to work out which card will best f>ck you up. Many other poker sites also do it.
Tend not to agree with your theory, but thats what forums are for....
diffrent opinions!.
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