Can the lottery be manipulated

[Spot]

all broadcast have a slight time delay so the person can say number 34 as been drawn 100 times in the 3 years (example not a true fact ) and was last drawn on what ever date it was drawn last. Yes it says live draw but if its videod live it can be said to be live

I find the voice-over ranting of the UK lotto televised draws a bit annoying, and puzzling because he always has some useless facts and statements to say about each number as soon as it is drawn, even while the ball is still rolling down the chute. I strain my eyes to see what number is on the ball, but the voice would instantly blurt out something about the number like he's reading from a script.

Still, I do think the draws are live because too many people are involved in the operation to cover up a delayed broadcast.

[blitzed]

USA Powerball lottery does ONE Pre-Draw-Test prior to the official draw, and FOUR Post-Draw-Tests afterwards.

They do provide the data (but I do not have access to post the links.)

Anyway, I wonder if other lotteries follow similar protocol. In such a scenario, I imagine it could very well be possible for insiders to cherry-pick the official draw from the SIX draws performed, and queue up that video.

[kendof]

Some interesting thoughts..but why would they rig it for random people to win ?

[blitzed]

Some interesting thoughts..but why would they rig it for random people to win ?

hiya kendof...if lottery could be rigged to keep jackpot winners out longer, it would inflate the jackpot further, creating more hype for the outrageous prize, thereby generating more revenue for the state as heaps more people scramble to play, perhaps even snatching up more tickets than usual.

cheers!

[uk61catman]

I have to agree with Blitzed on this question.If those on here who may watch the draw for the FA Cup notice,the balls are tipped into a "Goldfish Bowl" and swirled around by hand.There are 2,usually soccer players of note.who perform the ball selection as to who plays who and who is the home team.Each of the balls are hand picked by the 2 players and then placed onto a tray and one can visually see the results of all the balls following the draw.I firmly believe that this is the only honest method for a draw.
Many years ago,I lived in Spain and those of you who holidayed there may well remember the,often blind/disabled,guys selling the pre-printed lottery tickets on the street.I would often watch the draw on Spanish tv that involved a metal drum and someone sticking their hand inside to draw the balls.I don't believe that there was any manipulation then due to the fact that paper tickets were sold throughout Spain and although it may have been possible to know an area where a ticket was sold,there didn't exist a computer system to identify sold or unsold tickets.It would have been impossible to get the info back to a central point in such a short time.
It's only since the involvement of computer play tickets and G-Tech that one can view tickets/combinations played in such a short time.
I'll repeat that I believe that it is totally manipulated.I bet on the Irish Lotto in the Bookies now as I don't believe that the bookies can manipulate the outcome as it's totally distant from them.I accept that I'll never win millions but ???

[GreenOwl]

Hi Everyone, long time since I have been on. I still believe the lottery is being manipulated. Take these two sets of numbers that produced the double rollover for last nights draw Sat' 23/10/10: Starting with Sat' 16th. 6-30-34-38-45-48=201 Wed's 20th. 14-30-31-36-44-47=202? Notice it is the same number combination nearly, 3 numbers from the 30's 2 numbers from the 40's; the only difference was the first number. One number from 1-9 and one number from 10-19 for the second draw. If the numbers are being drawn at random, you would exspect a bigger difference in the number combination and, the total that the 6 numbers add up to.

[2_cups_short]

Surely this can simply be explained by probability. It's equally likely for any set of numbers to be drawn.

It's even equally likely for the exact same number set to be drawn the following week as a completely different set of numbers. The double rollover is likely just because so many people use dates in their numbers so only up to 31.

If you're worried about a conspiracy, maybe check out just how independent the "Independent adjudicators" are...

[uk61catman]

I have to agree with Green Owl's viewpoint.The UK Lottery is a business that creates profits for the shareholders,not a village hall draw for a cake raffle ! It is in the interest of a company that runs a lottery to generate more ticket sales by having only one or two winners of large jackpots,it's a psychology thing !
I'm convinced that as an operator of a lottery that's run where all purchases of tickets/numbers chosen can be viewed in an instant,can be manipulated.As I discussed with a Manager of a local bookies,why is the lottery not drawn at 7.30pm+20 seconds ? If one were to place a bet on a horse,bets are accepted up to the start of a race,then no more bets and the race runs.No delays of a few hours here whilst they decide what to do.Why do they have to do the test runs at the same time that the draw takes place,surely they should know whether the machine works or not as it was only used the previous Wednesday/Saturday or even for a daily draw ?
I would assume that most Lottery operators acquire and read everything that's published to outwit the punters? For example,as Green Owl stated,the numbers don't add up as to numbers drawn,most of us are aware that 75% of all possible combinations in a 6/49 draw add up to 150,therefore thelast thing the operator needs is this to happen,far to many winners are possible and the jackpots need to be split.
This happened in the early drawing of the UK Lottery with 133 tickets sharing the jackpot 16 years ago and it's never happened since !
Green Owl,doyou have access to info to see if what happened with the last 2 draws occured previously as I don't have the software to do this ? Could there be a strategy in this approach by targeting the choice of lines to such combinations that add up to such numbers ?

[GreenOwl]

Hi everyone, take the last two draws Sat 23 and Wed 27/10/10. Starting with Wed's first: 2-3-14-29-35-42=125, Sat's: 3-5-11-16-41-48=124? Only 1 digit between them, It's a rollover! Take these two sets of numbers that were drawn on Wed 6/10/10 and sat 9/10/10, starting with Wed's: 9-17-18-23-30-35 and Sat's: 5-11-19-29-33-35. Bothe sets of numbers are the same number combination. 1 from 1-9, 2 from 10-19, 1 from 20-29, and 2 from 30-39, both sets of numbers added up to 132? Are the numbers being drawn at random?

[james2612]

You have to admit, when we have massive roll overs the ticket sales go through the roof.... People see the massive jackpot and they go buy tickets.
But this does not mean it is being manipulated. Hmmm..... I dont think so any way!