roullete machines (coral, ladbrokes etc)

[jusin]

play in coral not ladrookes over time see patterns over certain numbers coming. after come play 1 pound red one pound black only lose if nought comes, till your nice numbers come then when your nice numbers come usuallt hit within 5 spins

Hi,

This is the best way to play it and whenever I will play this, will go through the strategy to win this game.

[HarryLevi]

the best way to play these machines is simply not to play in the first place

[telbirthjohnson]

Hey Buddy,

This is the first time I am ussing this forum, but what i will say is I tend to play the roulette machines in corals because I find they are a little more consistent in the way they play than any of the other high st bookies.
Ok, so what do I mean when I say that.
Well I think your part of the way there already in your approach, and the roulette machines do have specific patterns of playing, and the first thing to consider is never forget that the odds are obviously stacked against you, as the bookmaker is able to determine the outcome purely by the numbers you select, and I want to just hit tellers who tell you the outcome of each game is random. I was in a Ladbrokes about 6 years ago, and watched a guy playing 4 numbers per bet @ £12.50 per number, & he consistently replicated his numbers for 4 bets, and removed the money from one of the for numbers & placed it at random on any one of the other availible numbers, and five times in a row the ball landed on the number he had removed the stake from, additionally i stood and watched another guy cover 36 numbers for various amounts upto the maximum bet of £100 and the only number he never covered on the board came 4 times in a row, but all that said the amchines i play regularly in any corals do seem to play to a number of patterns, and once you learn them you can make small amounts of money consistently, but remember the art form of gambling is to know when to run, and the roulette machines will show you 'signs' if it is not going to pay, and I have found that there are certain numbers that start loosing sequences, and I find that often the '7' block is really bad, ie: 7,16,25,& 34-along with the '9' block 9,18,27,& 36. What I have tried is if the ball lands on 34 which I find is a killer number, if you do not have it covered when the ball lands there, if the machine is gonna send you home trouserless, just cover 25,16 for good money, and if the ball lands on the '7' you can leave that machine alone as I feel '7's & 9's represent loosing sequences, but there are other good blocks to play with confidence.
As far as I am concerned 4's, 5's, & 6's are the ,most consistent blocks, for example 23 followed by 14,5, or 32 which often play 3 times in a row with 1 miss and then another hit to 1 of those 4 numbers again if it's in a good mood, very rare it happens 4 times in a row if you have those numbers covered, but cautionary notes 23 is also hooked with 33 on the next spin & 5 may just land right next door and multiply by 2, 14 virtually never goes up or down 10, in other words to 24 or 4, and of that block of 4 numbers 14 I have found is the most likely to replicate. Pretty much the same thing with the '4' block, and I have found the best 2 numbers in that block to hook are 13 immediately followed by 31, but from 13 it often goes down 10 to 3 on the very next spin, but you need to watch out for 35 as it is embedded between sequential numers to the 13, & what I mean is from the 0 to the left, first you have 26, which is the multiple of 2, & next door is 3, which is minus 10, then '35'and then 12 which is minus 1, so if I am in front and can afford it I would cover all 4 of those numbers, whilst being certain to cover 4, & 22 also if your following me. But obviously you need to be watching for the killer blocks. If you hit 9, 18, 36 after any number on the '4' block I would quit and cut my losses as 9 is between 22 & 31, 18 is the other side of the 22, and 36 is + 1 to the 35 & surprise surprise, right next door to the 13. Finally the '6' block can be fruitful also, but it's a little less consistent than the '5' & '4' blocks, for example on the '6' block it can often play up and down the columns, for example after 6 it can go straight to 3 which is below on the column or to 9, which is directly above, and all of the numbers on the '6' block are prone to doing that, but there are other characteristics with specific numbers on the 6 block, for example 24 often will half to 12, or jump 1 or 10 to 25 or 34 respectively if it is not ready to pay, but 33 can play in a number of directions, which are: straight to another number on the '6' block, usually 6 or 15, or go down 10 to 23, or down 11 to give another double number, or ocassionally it will land right beside the only other double number '11', which is right beside....you've got it 36, which is right above the 33 in the 3rd column, and on the note of 11 I nearly forgot, but the way I nearly forgot, the '2' block is unique in that it only has 3 hook numbers, and if I hit 20 I always lump on 2 & 11, if I am in front and cover every next door, which is only an additional s6 numbers, some of which you may already have covered. I may have missed out 1 or 2 methods I use, but here are a few more: 3 number sequences, ie 28, 29, 30, but I think it there are numbers where this happens more frequently than others, like 0-3, between 8 & 16, in the high 20's to low 30's, and the top 3 in the 30's as we all say there is no way 34 35 & 36 will land on 3 consecutive spins. The other obvious 1 is where the ball will land on 3 progressive numbers, for example 0>32>15, but on that note 32 & 26 often follow eachother, and 26 often replicates after an initial clockwise spin. I nearly forgot, but the '3' & '8' blocks are not too bad either, but those blocks are pretty much all next door to numbers that I think will give indicators as to whether you can win a little or not. The only other thing to watch out for are what I call skips, and that is where you hit a number and lose, then you hit a number that you have covered but still lose part of your stake and then like a dummy we cover the number we just hit, and the previous number we missed all together comes again. Finally, for myself, if I can win £40 or 50 then that for me represents a good day, as many of those guys that boast they have won £1200 pounds in a day, more than likely lost 2,000 the day before, and then some. Never forget the bookies is a business so they need to make money, so for me the skill is to realistically work out what you can afford to loose and just as importantly, how much you are trying to win, and count as you play, so that you know when, and by how much you are in front, as can imagine there are fewer awful feelings in life than having a £100 profit 20 minutes before the bookies is due to close, and having lost that 100 and spewed another 300 on top and some cheeky teller is telling you that you need to get out because he/she needs to go home, when all you want is another 10 minutes, to maybe blow your last £20. Just remember 2 great sayings: Less is more, and bird in hand.

Maybe people think I am talking nonsense, but just stand behind somebody and watch them play if you doubt me, and then drop me a line. It's a lot of info, so just highlight bits you think are relevant, and see what happens. NB if you hit the start buttons at the same time, it will generate the same number irrespective of the direction of the wheel spin, and the only single number i ever cover to win over £100 in 1 spin is zero, but 1 spin only and that would be my first bet or my last bet, as i've seen many people cover the 1 number for 3 or 4 £'s and it's like an electronic key to a safe, with a simple question, yes or no, whereas with every other number the programme operators are working out percentages, as all too often you can look at the numbers on the column and 0 is usually absent, but play it irrespective.

hello all. i was looking on google for info regarding patterns and tips and stuff for the roullete in the bookies, which led me to this site but it was mostly ppl trying to sell systems so i thought i would make a thread and hopefully we can all contribute what we know so this thread can be a roullete machine database.

also i would be intrested to know what bookies ppl mostly play in, any tactics ppl have, patterns, and anything regarding systems e.g. force the zero, progressive betting, and the infamous trigger numbers and basicly, what are the most effective ways to win money!!!!! coz bassiclly i go in ,load up the zero and say for example the number is 23 i'll load up 3, 13, 23, 33 (all the 3 numbers) 22,24 coz there next to 23. 5 coz 2 + 3 = 5 and then 8 and 10 coz they are the neighbours to 23 on the wheel and then just go with instinct with what i have left. also i would like to know say i have 20 squid, would it be better to do 4 £5 spins,2 £10 or just put the lot on 1 go. any help would be appreciated =)

[Johnny's Amusements]

There is no such thing as a system to beat these evil roulette terminals. The best advice I could give anyone is steer well clear. As for that system above It is known as the Martingale system. Problem is when you hit 9 losing spins in a row you are in effect stuffed. If you keep on playing this system long enough, you WILL hit 9 losing spins in a row.When that happens all your hard earned profit (£1 a spin) will be gone along with most of your own wedge! The terminals do not average over £600 profit EACH per week by paying out "easy cash" to the players. The players are filling the bookies collection boxes week in week out without realising how much they are actually losing. Here is a fact for you. Any long term player of these machines can not possibly win. All they can do is win a little of their own money back. they will never be up in the end.

[telbirthjohnson]

Hmmm,

I think averages are not so important, I think %'s, profits and turnover are more fundamental, and when the bookies says the outcome is random, they are not talking about the numbers on the wheel, they are more concerned with paying out a certain amount of money based on a gross receipt, which is why the bookie knows he'll always win in the long run, because he always ensures that he takes his gate money, come on the outcome is already pre-determined, but the bookie will argue that someone is winning somewhere, but here's the thing, it is very very unlikely that whoever the winner is on that day, that they are a consistent winner, and that's why some people get barred from bookmakers, because the bookie does not want you to win, because they want the die hard losers to have the ocassional good day, and give their rarely earned winnings back with interest.
So when the bookie says the outcome is random, they are not lying, because they do not decide who wins or loses in that pool of numpty's who think there going to win £5,000 out of a roulette machine, and it can be done, but i am certain that most will end up living on the streets and loosing everything they have trying.
just an idiots opinion, my thing is aim to win a small amount frequently, and cut your loses rather than go home and have to lie to your partner, come on you know it makes sense.

Swings and roundabouts; You listed 9 numbers there, which is virtually 1/4 of the numbers on the wheel.
So if you did 4 x £5 bets it's likely that you will hit once.
But if you do 1 £20 bet it's likely you'll only hit once in every 4 visits to the bookies!

Of course, that's only the average; there's nothing to say you wont hit 4 times in a row... or miss 16 times in a row...
It's R A N D O M !

KK

[Johnny's Amusements]

Hey Buddy,

This is the first time I am ussing this forum, but what i will say is I tend to play the roulette machines in corals because I find they are a little more consistent in the way they play than any of the other high st bookies.
Ok, so what do I mean when I say that.
Well I think your part of the way there already in your approach, and the roulette machines do have specific patterns of playing, and the first thing to consider is never forget that the odds are obviously stacked against you, as the bookmaker is able to determine the outcome purely by the numbers you select, and I want to just hit tellers who tell you the outcome of each game is random. I was in a Ladbrokes about 6 years ago, and watched a guy playing 4 numbers per bet @ £12.50 per number, & he consistently replicated his numbers for 4 bets, and removed the money from one of the for numbers & placed it at random on any one of the other availible numbers, and five times in a row the ball landed on the number he had removed the stake from, additionally i stood and watched another guy cover 36 numbers for various amounts upto the maximum bet of £100 and the only number he never covered on the board came 4 times in a row, but all that said the amchines i play regularly in any corals do seem to play to a number of patterns, and once you learn them you can make small amounts of money consistently, but remember the art form of gambling is to know when to run, and the roulette machines will show you 'signs' if it is not going to pay, and I have found that there are certain numbers that start loosing sequences, and I find that often the '7' block is really bad, ie: 7,16,25,& 34-along with the '9' block 9,18,27,& 36. What I have tried is if the ball lands on 34 which I find is a killer number, if you do not have it covered when the ball lands there, if the machine is gonna send you home trouserless, just cover 25,16 for good money, and if the ball lands on the '7' you can leave that machine alone as I feel '7's & 9's represent loosing sequences, but there are other good blocks to play with confidence.
As far as I am concerned 4's, 5's, & 6's are the ,most consistent blocks, for example 23 followed by 14,5, or 32 which often play 3 times in a row with 1 miss and then another hit to 1 of those 4 numbers again if it's in a good mood, very rare it happens 4 times in a row if you have those numbers covered, but cautionary notes 23 is also hooked with 33 on the next spin & 5 may just land right next door and multiply by 2, 14 virtually never goes up or down 10, in other words to 24 or 4, and of that block of 4 numbers 14 I have found is the most likely to replicate. Pretty much the same thing with the '4' block, and I have found the best 2 numbers in that block to hook are 13 immediately followed by 31, but from 13 it often goes down 10 to 3 on the very next spin, but you need to watch out for 35 as it is embedded between sequential numers to the 13, & what I mean is from the 0 to the left, first you have 26, which is the multiple of 2, & next door is 3, which is minus 10, then '35'and then 12 which is minus 1, so if I am in front and can afford it I would cover all 4 of those numbers, whilst being certain to cover 4, & 22 also if your following me. But obviously you need to be watching for the killer blocks. If you hit 9, 18, 36 after any number on the '4' block I would quit and cut my losses as 9 is between 22 & 31, 18 is the other side of the 22, and 36 is + 1 to the 35 & surprise surprise, right next door to the 13. Finally the '6' block can be fruitful also, but it's a little less consistent than the '5' & '4' blocks, for example on the '6' block it can often play up and down the columns, for example after 6 it can go straight to 3 which is below on the column or to 9, which is directly above, and all of the numbers on the '6' block are prone to doing that, but there are other characteristics with specific numbers on the 6 block, for example 24 often will half to 12, or jump 1 or 10 to 25 or 34 respectively if it is not ready to pay, but 33 can play in a number of directions, which are: straight to another number on the '6' block, usually 6 or 15, or go down 10 to 23, or down 11 to give another double number, or ocassionally it will land right beside the only other double number '11', which is right beside....you've got it 36, which is right above the 33 in the 3rd column, and on the note of 11 I nearly forgot, but the way I nearly forgot, the '2' block is unique in that it only has 3 hook numbers, and if I hit 20 I always lump on 2 & 11, if I am in front and cover every next door, which is only an additional s6 numbers, some of which you may already have covered. I may have missed out 1 or 2 methods I use, but here are a few more: 3 number sequences, ie 28, 29, 30, but I think it there are numbers where this happens more frequently than others, like 0-3, between 8 & 16, in the high 20's to low 30's, and the top 3 in the 30's as we all say there is no way 34 35 & 36 will land on 3 consecutive spins. The other obvious 1 is where the ball will land on 3 progressive numbers, for example 0>32>15, but on that note 32 & 26 often follow eachother, and 26 often replicates after an initial clockwise spin. I nearly forgot, but the '3' & '8' blocks are not too bad either, but those blocks are pretty much all next door to numbers that I think will give indicators as to whether you can win a little or not. The only other thing to watch out for are what I call skips, and that is where you hit a number and lose, then you hit a number that you have covered but still lose part of your stake and then like a dummy we cover the number we just hit, and the previous number we missed all together comes again. Finally, for myself, if I can win £40 or 50 then that for me represents a good day, as many of those guys that boast they have won £1200 pounds in a day, more than likely lost 2,000 the day before, and then some. Never forget the bookies is a business so they need to make money, so for me the skill is to realistically work out what you can afford to loose and just as importantly, how much you are trying to win, and count as you play, so that you know when, and by how much you are in front, as can imagine there are fewer awful feelings in life than having a £100 profit 20 minutes before the bookies is due to close, and having lost that 100 and spewed another 300 on top and some cheeky teller is telling you that you need to get out because he/she needs to go home, when all you want is another 10 minutes, to maybe blow your last £20. Just remember 2 great sayings: Less is more, and bird in hand.

Maybe people think I am talking nonsense, but just stand behind somebody and watch them play if you doubt me, and then drop me a line. It's a lot of info, so just highlight bits you think are relevant, and see what happens. NB if you hit the start buttons at the same time, it will generate the same number irrespective of the direction of the wheel spin, and the only single number i ever cover to win over £100 in 1 spin is zero, but 1 spin only and that would be my first bet or my last bet, as i've seen many people cover the 1 number for 3 or 4 £'s and it's like an electronic key to a safe, with a simple question, yes or no, whereas with every other number the programme operators are working out percentages, as all too often you can look at the numbers on the column and 0 is usually absent, but play it irrespective.

Most interesting information.

[telbirthjohnson]

I don't want to be rude to the person that said BS, but I would say that not always you do see trends in the previous 12 or 13 numbers, but that can be because the previous player just refuses to cover numbers on the board that continue to re occur, and what I have noticed is that very very often sequences emerge every 4 numbers, or every other number, whether it is next doors or the same number, or number blocks as I call them, for example 5 followed by 14,23, or 32, all of which equal 5 when added together, if anyone doubts me if you watch anyone play, those block sequences will usually occur when a player has not covered 1 or a number of numbers in that particular block, and for me the cheapest 'block' to cover is the '2' block, 2,11, & 20 because there are only 3 numbers in the block which makes it nearly unique, as the only other if I am not mistaken is 1, 10, & 28.

play in coral not ladrookes over time see patterns over certain numbers coming. after come play 1 pound red one pound black only lose if nought comes, till your nice numbers come then when your nice numbers come usuallt hit within 5 spins

[gekko]

i can give you a link to a system that's free and works, f you want it

[uk61catman]

Hi,new here,came across this whilst surfing and joined.
Like many others,I've played the Martingale system,bet black(as red before) and red came up for the next 10 spins ! I'd lost my wad by the 7th spin and as the maximum stake is £100,could never recover.I played for the next 3 spins just to see when black would appear at £1 a spin.More on this below !
I have been involved with IT,Datacomms and worked alongside programmers of software for the last 20 years until early retirement and therefore have some knowledge.
All of the FOBT machines in the bookies are linked to a central "nerve" centre(much like a call centre),this is located in Bedfordshire and I recently met an old colleague of mine who was working on the simple maintainence of these machines.He explained that they are not like fruit machines in pubs and there is no legal requirement for them to meet a minimum payout percentage and that the statement "This Machine Is Random" is not the Oxford English Dictionary version of random.Effectively,random,in this case,means payout at the machine owners discretion !
As stated previously,I too have lost on these but now I know the truth,I leave well alone.If you must play them,don't hit the repeat bet button,the system monitors this and compensates,always place bets for each spin of the wheel.
As others have said,the bookmakers are constantly seeking to maintain a high profit margin and act accordingly,if the machines were fair,why is the software not within the machine but linked to Bedfordshire where all 8000+ machines are controlled from ?
Just do the maths !
My advice is to only bet on those things that bookies don't like and can't manipulate,football bets,Irish lottery etc.

[Dirk Kuyt]

i've recently bought a roulette guide for coral of off ebay and so far, touch wood, it's serving me well. it's halted my recent bad run anyway, which is more than welcome, will keep you posted on how it goes. the guy that sells it also does a hills one as well i think, but i rarely play there but might be tempted by it if my luck on coral machines continues.