Roulette 'Hawk' system...

[Gus Mango Fish]

Has anyone heard of this system. How does it differ from a standard Martingale?

Waltypies was telling me earlier that he read an article in casinotimes magazine, that said that players were being banned from casinos for using this system. And that if you are caught using the system online you are likely to get your account locked.

Shouldn't casinos should be encouraging players to use roulette 'systems'? With their inherent flaws and blind legions of followers it's the easiest way for the casino to felt you.

[waltypies]

I am going to try this out as well i have too much free time at the moment.

Basically i will be playing online with a 'live' dealer (mainly as they are hot). I will not be putting much money up and only spending the £1 min to start.

So far i am up £35

[Dice Man]

What is the system? This all sounds fictional to me.

[waltypies]

Ok here is the system.

Now i do know about all of them not working but there is no harm in trying it lol

Basically you start off betting on a colour

So say £1 on black. Now if that does not come in the next spin you double your bet on black. Again if that fails you keep doubling your bet until it comes in.

Then after you have won. You bet £1 again on red. Keep doing this until you are felted!

[Dice Man]

LOL at that system. It just means that you're very likely to win a small amount and fairly unlikely to lose a huge pile of cash. The piles of cash the casinos rarely make from this counteract the small amounts they pay out regularly though, so clearly -EV for the player.

[Gus Mango Fish]

Aye, and isn't the system Walty posted above a standard Martingale? Okay, so you are changing colours after one hits, but what the hell difference does that make?...

[waltypies]

Pass

Well i started with £50 and managed to get to £250 odd. So i decided to step up to £2 a number. That was a silly mistake

The dealer had a nice spin of 10 reds when it was blacks turn to bet on Ouch busto!!

So to conclude roulette systems do not work!!

[DannyC]

Originally Posted by waltypies

So to conclude roulette systems do not work!!

[waltypies]

Going into what Diceman said about this being -EV i did a little spread sheet to prove how much this is -ev

Spins Bet Cost

1 1 1
2 2 3
3 4 7
4 8 15
5 16 31
6 32 63
7 64 127
8 128 255
9 256 511
10 512 1,023
11 1,024 2,047
12 2,048 4,095
13 4,096 8,191
14 8,192 16,383
15 16,384 32,767
16 32,768 65,535

Therefore if we are on a 6 spin dry run the next time we have staked £127 to win £1!! LOL