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Old 9th August 2008, 10:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Roulette trigger numbers

There was originally one seller on e-bay selling trigger numbers for UK bookmakers machines. Then there were two, now there are several and even a dedicated website (you'll find it if you search). These are all from different sellers and it looks like they're different numbers (I've been researching this for some time....).

However, to spare you spending any money on your first trigger number here are two 'official' trigger numbers I have obtained from the original e-bay seller, via various means, for the time being, for you to make your own mind up;

Corals (and some William Hill, Tote and independents) (Global Draw Roulette Machines). Trigger number is '3'. After '3' has spun in the seller 'guarantees' that one of the following sixteen (yes, sixteen) numbers will spin in within eight (yes, eight) spins: 0, 3, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 23, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 35 and 36. Those of you who know a roulette wheel will appreciate that these numbers fall into two segments. Bet using a Martingale system.

Statistically, on a purely random wheel, the odds of one of 16 numbers falling within eight spins is 93%.

I know of at least 3 instances when one of the sixteen numbers hasn't spun in within eight spins.

Ladrokes. Trigger number is '20'. After '20' has spun in the seller 'guarantees' that one of the following ten numbers will spin in within ten spins: 1, 8, 11, 13, 14, 20, 30, 31, 33, 36. However, if one doesn't then the seller 'guarantees' that one will definitely spin in within the next few spins after the '20' occurs again.

I have other 'trigger numbers' from other sources, including this one: Ladbrokes, trigger number is '0'. After '0' has spun in then one of 5, 7, 10, 20, 26, 28, 29, 31, 33 or 35 will spin in within the next 10 spins. I know of at least 2 instances when this hasn't happened. This is not from the original e-bay seller.

I have lots of other information on this, including from the Gaming Commission etc., e-mails from other punters and disgruntled buyers of the complete system but ultimately you must ask yourself why the hell would one certain number spinning in trigger off others? Why would the programmers program the machines to behave in such a way? These systems rely on small wins for long periods but then one hell of a big loss when the system fails (i.e. 7% of the time for trigger number '3' on Corals).

Good luck but don't be so stupid!

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Old 9th August 2008, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I was playing live roulette today in Gala and I noticed a pattern with the numbers. Whenever a trigger number between 0-36 appeared, then sometime in the next 8 spins it was 'guaranteed' that at least 90% of the time one of the following numbers would come up: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36.

I clearly wasn't the only one to spot this as I saw quite a lot of money being staked on many of those numbers after the trigger number cropped up.
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Old 10th August 2008, 12:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow Tom, you make a great point.

Clearly you should sell that shit and become an eBay Millionaire!!
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Old 10th August 2008, 06:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There are even more sites now offering 'trigger numbers' for UK bookies roulette machines and I thought I'd save anyone interested the pain of losing money.

The nature of roulette means that to prove a system you need thousands of spins. To prove that 'force the zero' exists (or not), for example, you need at least 8,000 spins, but more than 20,000 is preferred. Any system on a mechanical wheel is a con unless you have a bent wheel or a bent croupier but there are undoubtedly bent software sites.

To prove that the 'trigger number' system works you need to play each trigger number at least several hundred times, and keep records.

Alternatively, you could find someone who has bought the system and played it for several months. In my 'research' I came across just that and my e-mail trail is posted below. You will note that the buyer of the system (for the Ladbrokes machines, from the original e-bay seller) was initially impressed but, after several months of playing, has now found that he loses unless he has a sufficiently large enough bank.....Martingale at it's very worst. It's a good thing that he didn't have a large enough bank because he would have eventually lost that too.

Suggest you all steer well clear of the trigger number system!

Cath (e-mails below, with original typos etc.)

Thanks xxxx, just wondering though, what happens if a trigger number drops in, 20 say, and then immediately after that another trigger number drops in, how do you play it?

Could you give me an idea of the amount of bank you use and your hourly winnings?

hi cath,if two or more triggers pop out in a row then you simply wait until they all win except one then play the last remaining one.this way you start betting at the latest possible point.this in turn means you will be betting less and not waiting as long for a winner.for example if the number 20 comes out followed by another trigger don't bet but keep spinning,if one of the winning numbers for 20 come in before any of the other triggers winning numbers then you would not play 20 you would play the following trigger. suitable bankroll is £500 this ensures you can play the system most efficently.iv been playing with a smaller bank of around £300 and this does restrict me slightly.it just means I spend a bit longer at the machines.the hourly profit does vary I think the quickest iv made £25 out of 1 machine is 20 mins.4 machines in most shops so it is possible to play whole shop in 1 and a half to 2 hours haven't managed this yet,due to my smaller roll.the most I have earned in one session is just over £100.this took me 3 hours and includes me walking from one shop to another.with a £500 bank im sure I will make £200 in 5 to 6 hours,and to be honest if I have a bad day and it takes me 7 hours it beats working a full time job in my opinion.

Hope the Ladbrokes roulette you bought from Tony is going OK? You still winning? There is now another system for sale at DELETED LINK SINCE FOR SOME REASON YOU LINKED US ALL TO PORN... GOOD WORK. I've e-mailed Tony but it's not his site, he thinks it's a con.

Hope it's a winning system so I can buy it. Any more feedback from you would be welcome.

Thanks,

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hi there.i checked the site out seems like it could be the same system.mayby someone tony sold the system to is selling it on.as far as me playing the system goes i still cant come up with enough cash to play it properly.i still pop in the bookmakers and play it some times but i sometimes lose simply because i run out of money before one of the numbers come out.Frustrating but ill just have to wait till i can get enough to play properly.To be honest though i have never seen it fail so far and i think it is highly unlikely to.in my experience if a system fails then it fails in a short space of time.i have played this system for many hours and believe that it is sound.Just annoying for me not being able to play!!


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Old 21st August 2008, 08:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi, I recently received an e-mail from a member of this site and he said I would be interested in this site and he would like to hear my story. I would like to know 1st who Tony is? I bought an online roulette system from him for £1000. Has anyone else bought this system and what experience have you had? Thanks
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Old 22nd August 2008, 12:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Alright... in simple terms here goes:

1) dont pay £1000 (which i dont believe you did)

2) Systems don't work

At the end of the day pal, I don't believe for one second that you spent £1000 on a 'devised' system that someone made up, and for seconds systems don't work. Without further a due, and no offence intended, if you spent £1000 on something someone tells you to do your stupid, if you spend £1000 on a 'system' you are stupid.

I have studied alot of maths and science in my time, to know that these 'systems' are just exactly what the casino/bookies are looking for. For people to have pseudo-belief that they are gonna win... If people could have an edge over the house, roulette wouldn't exist...
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Statistically, on a purely random wheel, the odds of one of 16 numbers falling within eight spins is 93%.
It's nearly 99%. P = 1 - [(37-16)/37] ^ 8.



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