Slots are better than Roulette (Online)

[KasinoKing]

This section seems to be dominated by threads from people either asking how to beat roulette, or 'snake oil salesman' trying to lure people into buying their 'guaranteed winning system'.

I totally understand the gamblers interest because when I first started playing at casinos (real 'bricks & mortar' places, not online) I spent many an hour trying to come up with roulette betting systems to 'guarantee' I would win.
But like all these systems, I could have good days & win quite a bit or bad days & lose a packet.
But that's not due to my poor system - all roulette systems ultimately fail for 2 main reasons; a) you can not defy the laws of mathematics, and b) because gamblers either get greedy or bottle out and do not stick to the plan.

As for those trying to sell systems, well the question I always ask is this; If your system really does guarantee that you can always profit from roulette, why the hell are you selling it???

Some years after I gave up chasing the roulette rainbow (in 2004 in fact) I gradually started turning away from online card games & roulette and started playing slots. For the last 3 years I would say over 95% of my online gambling is just on slots. And yet I continued to make profits every year, as I have done since 2001.
So how did I do that? 3 main factors;

1) Online casinos give out generous bonuses in which slots always count at 100% toward the Wagering Requirements (Other games, like Blackjack & Roulette often only count at 50% or MUCH less - down to 0% in fact!)

2) I use a 'Martingale' type of system which is the core of most of these roulette schemes, but the big difference with slots is you can do this much more gradually and without involving any 'all or nothing' mega-sized bets.

3) Self Control. No gambler (no matter what he gambles on) will ever make a long term profit if he does not have this. If you want to win, you MUST know when to stop. In the case of slots I always aim to quit when I'm ahead (of course!), but also you need the courage to quit when behind; don't chase a bad loss and make it even worse. (I am not perfect at doing this myself, but I'm doing OK )

Rather than detail everything in full in this post, if anyone wants to know more about any of the above, please post your questions below and I will answer next time I visit.
Free of charge of course - I'm not selling anything!

Happy spinning!
KK

[sappaper]

You said:
But that's not due to my poor system - all roulette systems ultimately fail for 2 main reasons; a) you can not defy the laws of mathematics, and b) because gamblers either get greedy or bottle out and do not stick to the plan.

My answer: Mmh... you are able to defy the laws of mathematics by creating a system that's BASED on the laws of mathematics, that would be succesful and i think i found something...
b) = you're absolutely right!
I know you have a lot of experience Kasinoking, but this is my opinion

[casinoregister]

Nice tips, kasinoking. But, I've never win any slot games since... a decade ago! Don't you think blackjack and roulette have better odds?

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by sappaper

My answer: Mmh... you are able to defy the laws of mathematics by creating a system that's BASED on the laws of mathematics, that would be succesful and i think i found something...
b) = you're absolutely right!
I know you have a lot of experience Kasinoking, but this is my opinion

Well I hope your system really works. But if it does I bet you wont go trying to sell it to anyone.
(However, if you'd like me to test it for you for free... )

Originally Posted by casinoregister

Nice tips, kasinoking. But, I've never win any slot games since... a decade ago! Don't you think blackjack and roulette have better odds?

Absolutely not! They obviously have lower House Edge, but they also have much lower variance. Variance (believe it or not) is the slot-players friend!
To win 'big' with Blackjack you either need to be making big bets and get a lucky run, or you need to double up 3 or 4 times, which also needs a lucky run.
On slots you can keep your bets low and you don't need a lucky run, just one good hit.

For some examples, I've had a very lucky spell at 32Red this month;
I started playing on the 9th, and these are my best results so far;

Ladies Nite: Won $310.95 from a $1.95 spin. Profit +$325
Big Break: $241.14 from 90c & $115 from $3. Profit + $277
The Osbourns; $273.00 from $2. Profit +$108
Age of Discovery: $224.64 from $2. Profit $83 (Was in a bad way before getting the big win!)
Cashapillar: $410.40 from $4. Profit +$339
(The profit is how much I gained from starting on that slot until leaving it to play another).

To keep things in perspective, I have also suffered some bad losses as well:-
Big Kahuna -$63, Bush Telegraph -$129, Cashanova -$149, Cashville -$137

So far I have wagered $4,830 from a WR of $10,000 and I'm currently $470 up (not including the bonus).
I should really now low-roll the rest of the WR - I could even play blackjack if I want (counts at 100% at 32Red), but I'm a real slots-addict so will almost certainly carry on in the same way.

I have screenshots of all the above wins - if anyone wants to see, just ask!
Here's my favorite one:-

[sappaper]

Well I hope your system really works. But if it does I bet you wont go trying to sell it to anyone.
(However, if you'd like me to test it for you for free... )

I'm not going to sell it, because that means it must be a scam, you know
People who sell their systems (if they promise you loads of money by using their system) must have no 'loads of money'.
First, i want to test this in real modus (in July), after that if it really works i'm going to tell it to anybody who wants this.
I tried it 8 times in 'play modus' with a starting balance of €150, my best shot = €2192 after 1.30min, BELIEVE IT or not, but 2 times i got bankrupt. So i started to make my own guide to minimalise the chance to end with €0.

[1james1]

does any one no where to get free roulette systems

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by 1james1

does any one no where to get free roulette systems

I hope it's OK to post this here, but I know a non-commercial forum where roulette is always the hottest topic:-

Gambler's Glen Message Boards

There are loads of systems discussed there, but remember roulette can not be beaten, period.
If it could be beaten it wouldn't exist.

KK

[amandabet]

I think blackjack and roulette got better payout percentage than slots tho.

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by amandabet

I think blackjack and roulette got better payout percentage than slots tho.

Yes of course they do - but that doesn't necessarily make them better games.
Please read my second post in this thread (Post #4)

Cheers!

[freddyb45]

Not sure which I prefer to be honest, I've only got limited experience of both but I'm trying to play a bit more online so might come back in a couple of weeks!