Roulette Machines, any cheats/tips ?????

[R0X45]

Software run roulette is not 'true' random number generation. Its well documented online that it is not.

I agree with that.

For a start, you always do better when playing for fun than when playing for real money.

When playing for real money;

Try Red/Black betting and if you consistently bet on red then you are guaranteed to see 9-15 (probably more than 15, 15 is just the most I've seen before quitting) blacks come up in a row. Consistently bet on black and you are guaranteed to see 9-15 reds come up in a row.

Try betting on Red, and once you have won, switch to betting on black and vice versa (doubling your bet each time you lose like in the Red/Black betting system) and suddenly you will see red/black/red/black/red/black......etc.

Try only betting on one number and that number will never turn up again.

I don't beleive it is random at all. I think they are monitoring what you are doing and making sure your number/color doesn't turn up.

[columbo]

What you said about them monitoring what you are doing, like betting red or black. I think that the software has built in 'counter active sub programs' to divert from red to black, when your on a roll.

I don't play outside even money bets for that possible reasoning. I play number patterns, straight up bets. Playing 3 numbers minimum. And switching to new numbers after a win to dodge the possibility of those sub program game killers from being activated.

The casinos say they are tested for randomness by independant regulators. They are not allowed to see the software program algorithm. They only are allowed to test the results for randomness. They don't give a rating as to whether it was good or poor, as long as passes their test for say 75% random, it is approved. But the question is how do they know the casino hasn't added or changed the program from the time it was tested?

Saying all this, I am happy it is not 'true' randomness. As I would win less. I track roulette patterns of groups of numbers that repeat. That doesn't occur on 'live' roulette. Its swings and roundabouts but better than real randomness. Thats my veiw anyway.

[R0X45]

I track roulette patterns of groups of numbers that repeat.

That's what I'm trying to do now. Since I don't believe they are truly random I am looking for number frequencies, patterns etc. I wish I had more time to do it!

[columbo]

have you tested my post on repeating numbers system yet. Its got to be the easyiest basic no brainer system you will ever come across, will be your first impression when you look at it. That should change to a beaming grin after you test it (me thinks?). You gotta test it on casinos with differing software, unibet is doing the biz presently. Go on, test it.

[R0X45]

have you tested my post on repeating numbers system yet. Its got to be the easyiest basic no brainer system you will ever come across, will be your first impression when you look at it. That should change to a beaming grin after you test it (me thinks?). You gotta test it on casinos with differing software, unibet is doing the biz presently. Go on, test it.

Only for an hour or so on a free roulette game. It was working then. I need to start testing it on differet casinos and comparing.

Unibet?

[dukemill]

Some of you are confusing "intrinsically random" to "random to all intents and purposes" or "random as far as it is humanly possible to measure"

Computer RNG's often don't have an intrinsically random generation point, although they can. They often use number sequences which although not intrinsically random are so large and complex in their generation that it becomes impossible tell that the results are not intrinsically random.

Computer RNG's that you will get in any UK operated machine have been certified by a third party company as "random to all intents and purposes" or put another way "random as far as it is humanly possible to measure"

If two terminals were set up side by side and the results from a certified RNG generating random results in the roulette range of 0 to 36 were supplied to terminal 1 and the results from a mechanical output such as a real wheel were supplied to terminal 2 neither you nor any other human using techniques currently known to science could tell whihc terminal was supplied by the computer RNG and which by the mechanical wheel.

[columbo]

hi dukemill

I disagree with you completely on this

Some of you are confusing "intrinsically random" to "random to all intents and purposes" or "random as far as it is humanly possible to measure"

In 'pseudo' random number generation it is fact with factual data to back it up, that the algorithms that attemt to generate 'true' randomness. Have number 'recursion' a simplistic example of this is 23211232. This is not found in 'true' randomness to the high degree it is found in algorithmic pseudo rng's today.

[mrcjod]

ariscardFirstly never trust anthing off ebay as you'l probably end up purchasing an electronic bog roll
secondly if its computerised its programmed to do whatever it does, if your a programmer of some sort you may be able to figure something out if

[Cunchy]

Gotta agree with Gus.

We can all talk about software number generation until the cows come home and in all the various investigations, friends, insiders etc. that I've made in the past few years for software roulette I have never actually come across a programmer offering inside advice, or anyone actually proving that it really is fixed in any which way possible.

If 97% is good enough for a physical casino then it should surely be good enough for a software casino.

I remain entirely of the opinion that the bookies machines in the UK are totally random. I agree there are dodgy on-line sites that let you win on free spins to entice you in but that's a different matter.

Cath

[hairydude]

I play these machines(and have done for 3 years now) far too much- i've won up to £800 on the cashquest machines but in the same form have lost hundreds. There is no way they are random.

Indeed my mother used to work for Ladbrokes and she would tell me thing like "oh those cashquest were really paying out today- they were at 86%), Now I know there is more than roulette on these machines but roulette is the one you see most people playing- if it was truly random they would be paying out at on average of 97.22% and hence somedays would be lower and somedays higher so 86% should not be a high payout