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Originally Posted by Dice Man
Well the original question had an obvious answer then. You and Pete came storming in here answering a completely different question. I'd agree with you on that question, but in the context of this thread it looks like you're both giving a bad answer to the original question.
Also in your calculation it looks like if there are no antes, then it's break-even to push with ATC if it's folded to you. That means there are surely some hands you can fold because there might be a few more opportunities to push with a hand better than ATC.
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With the calculations shown, it would be a break even push for sure. =EV for making chips, but taking an =EV situation in tourneys can sometimes be extremely T+EV or T-EV at times. (I can't remember how you shorten tourney EV but im going to call it T+EV or T-EV.)
This is a situation where it would be T++++++EV. Let me give you an example of what a T-EV situation would be.
First hand of the world series and I have AKs in the BB. It is folded to the SB who shoves allin and turns over 22.
Cool Im a 50.01% Favourite if I call, but obviously taking this oppotunity every time would need a miracle to win any tourney so it would be T-EV.