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Old 27th March 2007, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Are online slots really random?

This discussion started in another thread about Pub fruitys;
Extreme Jailbirds - expert views?
but it has developed into a discussion about online slots so I've started a new thread with an appropriate title!

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Originally Posted by JPwizard
Sorry missed the online bit

Saying that though I thought online slots were more random like S16. I used to play Paddy power machines online and you can pump them all day and not get any response of it progressing. There was one about a year back called Double Jeopardy (Taken from the US tv quiz). When you got on the feature you had to pick squares and they would reveal an amount of money. My first pick was 25, 2nd 15 and then 3rd was 35 I then hit the finish square and it revealed what all of the other squares had underneath them.

While this was happening I lost connection so the feature started again. I then went to pick other squares hoping to get more but it did exactly the same sequence 25, 15, 35 finish which basically meant it had decided the amount i was going to get before I had even picked a square. It would not have mattered which squares I picked they would have come out in the same sequence. Which is the same for a S16
I have no idea at all what an 'S16' is - so you'll have to forgive my ignorance on that!

Your Paddy Power (WagerWorks software) experience was an unfortunate one; you would expect to get taken back to the exact same place after re-connection, with the already picked squares showing.
But given that they weren't, it would be unrealistic to expect to get different results if picking different squares. Otherwise people could deliberately sever their internet connection, go back & win all the top prizes!

These 'picking bonuses' have always been an annoying mystery to me: Are the prizes really behind the squares and your picks make a difference, or are the outcomes pre-determined so it doesn't matter which order you pick them in...?
I know it doesn't actually matter - but I'd still like to know!

Even if they are pre-determined it does not mean the slot is rigged. The bonus could be set to select a random amount between X - Y at the beginning of the round - but so what?

But the main thing I'm saying about online slots is when the reels spin, where they stop is truly random. (Not on online 'UK Pub Fruity' types)
A year or so back I actually analysed one of my favorites, Microgaming's Tomb Raider. Over many hours I painstakingly plotted out all the symbols on the 5 reels (very tedious as you can only see 3 symbols at a time!)
I discovered the the reels have 24, 28, 34, 40 & 40 symbols respectively. Each has one 'Lara' scatter symbol - you need 3 or more of these to win a free-spin bonus round. Based on the numbers of symbols above, the chances of getting 3 scatters for the feature are once in every 123.99 spins, and this more or less exactly corresponds to the results I've had over many 1000's of spins.

Some of my online friends on other forums have done similar experiments on other slots & came to the same conclusion - the result of each spin is truly random.

Online slots are completely different animals to £25 pub fruities; these are deliberately rigged to make them more interesting / exciting / addictive - they frequently go the the 'feature board' and take you tantalisingly close to that nice big win but then, damn you just needed the wheel to go low off that 11 but a 12 popped in... How annoying! Next time eh...

For anyone interested, these are the symbols on Tomb Raider:-
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