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Old 15th November 2004, 10:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
Totty2
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Ok then smart arse.

If a machine is backing, everyone will agree...the machine is full. (whether this is through people playing it or from a refloat)

Either way you are not guaranteed to make a profit if you force it. Even less chance if its been refloated.

It will all depend on how far its % is off its target, when the last JP was, and the amount in the streak compensator.

Generally speaking, if you are forcing a machine it is general logic that you have an increased chance of making a profit if it is backing because the machine is deemed to be full.

How much it takes to force a machine is down to all these factors PLUS the main factor...MANUFACTURER. Barcrests have traditionally been much easier and kinder on a force than say a Bellfruit where, Despite a possible streak of over £110, you are far more likely to put in more than 40 quid for just one JP. (From backing)

Therefore, its difficult to answer your question with a straight answer BECAUSE of the many affecting factors mentioned above and it would be dangerous to assume an 'average' forcing amount when backing.

If I had a gun to my head....From experience, I'd say on average I'd be alright with putting £40 in when forcing a machine from backing because I would be hoping for the £50, £75 or more streak. If only one JP came tumbling my way, id accept it, and walk. Or I'd use my knowledge of the streak cycles and plan my visits to the locations in co-ordination with the 'expected streak time'

I know its not a plain and simple answer, but its not that black and white.

Hope it helps though!! and EVIL SATAN... Happy now?
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